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Feeding wet and dry food together
« on: Dec 26, 2016, 21:27 »
I'm looking for some advice on how much to feed my slightly overweight Rhodesian Ridgeback.  She is 5 and up until being spayed in May, was bang on for weight (she was around 39/40 kilos but she is a tall dog and she had the right covering and a good waist).    She is up to 44 kilos and just a bit porky.  I have had periods of time when either me or the dog haven't been able to exercise as much as i'd like and she has been putting on weight. 

 I'm able to get her back into a better exercise routine now and want to make sure I'm feeding her the right amount.  I'm currently feeding Chappie wet and complete together - she won't eat just kibble so she is currently roughly 3/4 of a can a day plus 300 grams of chappie kibble and measured dry treats (total around 600 grams).  I would happily change to another brand and have looked at Wainwrights as an alternative.  I fed raw for about 10 months when she was younger and it simply did not suit her at all.  Thanks in advance for any advice offered.

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Re: Feeding wet and dry food together
« Reply #1 on: Dec 27, 2016, 15:46 »
Hello and welcome to the forum. Chappie dry review is here and Chappie wet review is here. If you wish to keep your dog on these products then it would probably be helpful to stop treats and to reduce the food amount by 10%. Keep her on that for a week or two and if there is no weight loss, reduce it by another 10%.

You ask about Wainwright's and it would be a better choice than Chappie. These products are reviewed on the Dog Food Directory and score much higher than Chappie. Two of their products are low fat, weight control versions - IIRC they are turkey and salmon. Once the dog is of normal weight you could then easily change to the normal adult one.

It would be easier to just use dry food and if you use warm water on the kibble your dog might enjoy it better as it brings the aroma out.

My own experience of controlling weight in dogs is that low fat and higher protein helps. However, accurate weighing of food is vital, as is giving the correct amount - this may be a fair bit lower than the recommended daily amount.
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Re: Feeding wet and dry food together
« Reply #2 on: Dec 27, 2016, 22:58 »
After spaying there is a change to a dog's metabolism, sometimes resulting in reassessing  food intake versus exercise, which may result in a change of food completely, or in reducing the amount of the usual food.

If you decide to continue with chappie then as Dottie suggests start with giving her 10% less food and reassess after a week.
Another suggestion may be to leave her amount of Chappie wet food at 3/4 can and reduce only her Chappie dry by 10%. Reason behind this is that kibble by volume is more calorie dense than wet food and she should still lose weight gradually, yet have a fairly full plate of food.

If you follow the links in Dottie's post you can see that Chappie is below average in protein and fat and above average in carbohydrates. Wainwright dry kibble is reviewed here: http://www.allaboutdogfood.co.uk/dog-food-reviews/0619/wainwrights-dry-adult  and as you can see this has average levels of protein and fat and is  above average in carbohydrates. So if she usually does well with those levels of nutrients with Chappie you may find the transition to Wainwright kibble would suit her.

 If you want to treat her then I'd suggest using some of the dry kibble  out of her daily allowance.



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Re: Feeding wet and dry food together
« Reply #3 on: Dec 29, 2016, 19:36 »
Thank you for your advice.  I knew that things would change after her spay but it has crept on gradually - bit like myself!  I have started changing her dry food over to Wainwrights and got the "light" option which she already seems to love!  I've reduced the amount of Chappie wet food to half a can a day and am measuring everything (including treats and how far we are walking)  It's only been a couple of days but I'm already starting to see a bit of a difference.  I will nip into the vets tomorrow for a weigh in and see if the scales equal what my eyes are seeing.  Really really appreciate your comments - the site has been really useful in working out what I need to do and your help has confirmed that she and I are heading in the right direction.  Sally

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Re: Feeding wet and dry food together
« Reply #4 on: Dec 29, 2016, 20:12 »
You have made a good choice. I hope that you will soon have your dog at a healthy weight. Thank you very much for updating your thread.
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Re: Feeding wet and dry food together
« Reply #5 on: Dec 30, 2016, 12:13 »
Re; Light option - Without checking, I believe the labelling of a food as 'light' means it has to contain 10% less calories than the 'normal' adult dog food - the calorific content of food is rarely mentioned on packaging but on average I think it is around 440kj per 100g ( so a light varient would be 400kj). In the past, I've recommended Arden Grange Light as it comes in at 326kj per 100g - a 25% reduction. Other foods to look at would be the ones with high oats contents as these are seen as slow release - think 'fuller for longer'. Arcana and Burns as example. Calorific content is a really useful label that rarely appears on EU foods but is common in USA, much more useful than crude analysis.
As to not eating dry kibble alone, try zapping the kibble in the microwave for a few seconds - this heats up the oils and fats in the food and can make it more appealing.

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Re: Feeding wet and dry food together
« Reply #6 on: Jan 21, 2017, 23:50 »
Paraphrasing from the FEDIAF's code for labelling the definition of a "light" food is that it should be a minimum of 15% less energy dense than a comparable maintenance adult food.
So this explains that the Wainwrights light you are using should be at least 15% lower in calories (kcal) than their adult food.

 It's good to hear she's doing well on her new diet.


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