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Dog treats / Re: Puppy chew... for 3 months old.
« on: Yesterday at 15:56 »
What about "bully sticks"?

Here are a couple of links for you to check yourself if you'd find them suitable. My dogs loved these from puppyhood.

You say Leo likes ice cubes? I've had a pup going through the teething stages who really could not get enough of ice cubes and frozen baby carrots, frozen runner beans, and though this may not sound appropriate, it worked,  and really helped ease those gums! Chewing on a frozen baby carrot took a good while too.

Here here Coaster, and thank you, I really appreciate yours and all input on this thread. :D

It's easy to be a part of the poll, by simply clicking the box next to your option. This is after you join the allaboutdogfood forum & that's easy too!

Thanks Coaster,  Beta was the chosen food of gundog breeders that I knew over 20 years ago & like you I've 'evolved' through plenty of foods over the years(!)

General discussion / Re: Vegan, Vegetarian or Meat
« on: Jan 22, 2017, 16:21 »
You may also find this article interesting as it is was reviewed in 2013 by Dr Jean Dobbs who has written many books numerous papers and has a wealth of knowledge in her fields of dog health, nutrition and vaccinations :

Thanks Tinyplanets,   Ooh err...bad wind :-X ...... Hmmm (memories)  yet a tin of dog meat plus table scraps was often the 'norm' for domestic dogs.

"That is rather wasteful so how much is too much?"
Although the article and the USA and Europe food 'councils' (mentioned previously)  give specific numbers or ranges of numbers, it reads that the individual dog's protein needs are different.

There are specifics to do with the more obvious such as strenuous exercise and there are less obvious examples of larger hairer dogs needing more protein. There are also examples in the article of specific weight plus activity = kilocalories needed per day and x amount of protein. Where x is a specified amount.

Hope this helps yet an individual dog, given it's metabolism, it's chemistry and with all the other variables such as illness, activity, age, medication, weight I can see why there are ranges given.

Thanks Dottie, yes it will be interesting to see the results and compare how we fed our dogs then to how we feed them now.

"Many years ago I gave them Pedigree Chum or similar and mixer biscuit................In those days we did not have all these varieties of dry complete."
I agree absolutely, this was how it was, feeding choice was so very different to today.

Dog foods / What did you mainly feed your dogs 5 years ago
« on: Jan 22, 2017, 00:12 »
I wonder would it be useful to see in a poll how feeding our dogs has changed over time. Let's start by asking what we mainly fed our dogs 5 years ago.

Please say if there is an option missing in the poll and I'll happily add it. Thanks in advance to all who vote.

General discussion / Re: Feeding wet and dry food together
« on: Jan 21, 2017, 23:50 »
Paraphrasing from the FEDIAF's code for labelling the definition of a "light" food is that it should be a minimum of 15% less energy dense than a comparable maintenance adult food.
So this explains that the Wainwrights light you are using should be at least 15% lower in calories (kcal) than their adult food.

 It's good to hear she's doing well on her new diet.

"As you say, some grain is not very good for the dog but do you think that pet owners need to understand that grain is not all bad?  If so, how do we get that across in the face of the increasing number of grain free pet food that is coming onto the market?"
I agree with you Dottie, it seems that at this time the belief seems to be that all grain is bad. This is likely tied up with the current advertising of no grain meals, though through websites like allaboutdogfood I believe dog owners will become better informed.

Here's an interesting article explaining what is protein and how much protein is needed by dogs. Also the effects of insufficient protein in the diet and what happens if there is excess protein :

It reads that larger dogs have different protein requirements to smaller dogs viz " ....meaning that protein requirements for larger dogs with lots of hair soon stack up". Also  "It may be surmised that metabolically and clinically relevant differences exist when talking about protein needs and deficiency symptoms in, say a Chihuahua compared to a Great Pyrenees".

The article states the amount of protein as defined by the National Research Council (USA) as about 22g per 400 kcals with variance - dependent upon activity, age, pregnancy, recovery, lactation, physiological stress.

This can be compared to last year's FEDIAF (Europe) recommendation of protein between 45g and 62.5g per 1000 kcal ie between 18g and 25g per 400kcal.

You can download that information from here:

Here is an interesting article about lawn burn written by an American vet:

It reads that Fescue and Ryegrass are most resilient to the effects of dog urine. Perhaps I should have been using  Mr Fothergill's 'Tough Lawn' seeds all along in my garden!

Dog foods / Re: Edgard & Cooper dog food range
« on: Jan 19, 2017, 18:37 »
It's been confirmed today (by Edgard & Cooper's Marketting Executive) that not all the recipes available in the UK have the same ingredients as those recipes on the .com website. Also that the ingredients will be their UK website in the near future.
I'll let you know when I hear more.

Classifieds / Re: Tarimoor Pets Limited
« on: Jan 18, 2017, 17:05 »
Lovely photo of your 5 gundogs and hound   8) &
good luck with your business - I like this:
 " I refuse to stock certain products that are harmful to dogs, including cooked bones, dental chews that are high in salt, and (even though they are popular brands) foods that are high in colourants and additives.  "

Hopefully you are or will be known for taking this caring stance of dog health before profit.

This is really good to hear and will for sure be beneficial to helping poorly dogs.

I thought I'd mention your really helpful article (particularly the table) about presciption diets in the allaboutfogfood website here:

Sadly we know how helpless we can feel when our dog is poorly. And as Dottie says 'thoroughly confused'.

Consolidating the information in that article mentioned above -  (plus from elsewhere in the website) together with your new data - to the 'targeted condition' filter will make the information quicker and easier to access for owners.

Also the individual articles of dietary implications on health should really help owners to understand why the amounts of nutrients are suggested as they are, and for what particular aspects of canine health could be improved. In a nutshell why give x to a dog, because it could help with y, and that is not working correctly due to z.....

 This not only helps an owner to understand, yet also to feel more in control of what foods can really be given to help their poorly dog, and why.

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