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Re: Food for dog with lots of intolerances
« Reply #30 on: Oct 30, 2015, 18:42 »
Hi Katrin

I've had good results with wainwrights...I've tried every dry flavour (well not me personally)... My dog likes all of them..... The funny thing with the salmon is my schnauzer is obviously very hairy... His beard stinks of fish so I've moved him onto duck :)... He doesn't mind he loves it.

Dotties comment about pumpkin is something that I've wanted to try. Apparently if you use the canned pumpkin (pure pumpkin not pie filling) it can help to ease constipation and can help to firm up stools... Sounds like a miracle in a can.

When Zeus had a particular bad case of the runs when he was a lot younger I drove to numerous supermarkets but couldn't get it. They sell it online though and I believe a desert spoon full in the food has great effects whether you need things to be firmer or looser.

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« Reply #31 on: Oct 31, 2015, 20:16 »
Where do you get the pumpkin from? I couldn't find it in local stores.

Also, since I read something about food and behavior in a different thread. Ranger lately has started to run up to other dogs again, even during fetch. He is not good with most other dogs. He used to do this as a younger dog when I first rescued him, but has since stopped at least during fetch time (no guarantees if there is no ball envolved but that's why he is on lead if we are not playing ball). He needs his running time, so we cannot go without it. I was wondering if it is just a "step back" as it sometimes happens, goign through a phase...but maybe there is some relation to the food? I don't think it is likely, but I also never thought of food influencing these kinds of behaviors that much?

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« Reply #32 on: Nov 01, 2015, 09:23 »
I too have looked for tinned pumpkin and couldn't find any but I didn't explore all of the local supermarkets. Being November, there plenty of fresh ones of course. Regarding the behaviour, I don't know if there is a connection with the new food. When I have had mine on this kind of product I haven't noticed any change in them. The obvious answer is that he is feeling a lot better and more energetic so this behaviour is a result of that. I think the best solution is to manage it. Maybe consider additional training or walking him somewhere that has fewer dogs. You should be able to get on top of it with a bit of thought and a change in strategy. However, there is always the safety measure of using a long training lead. It needs to be attached to a harness, not a collar but as it trails on the ground, you can always put a foot on it to fetch him back if he isn't listening to you.
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« Reply #33 on: Nov 01, 2015, 10:58 »
Oh, I have done long lead training and he is always on harness as he slips out of collars way too easily. Most likely it is just a phase again, we got it under control when he was younger, so maybe just slipping back to it, for whatever reason. Frustrating, but that's how parenting is, right?  ;D

He definitely enjoys his food more again. Not as excited as he was for when he was on raw (well he also always had different foods), but still quite happy, especially as I have been adding in beans or the fish food. I mean, I would be happier too compared to eating the same kibble...

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« Reply #34 on: Nov 01, 2015, 11:14 »
It is good news that your dog is doing so much better on the wet food. Hopefully he will continue to do well and enjoy his food.
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« Reply #35 on: Nov 01, 2015, 13:21 »
My dog isn't too good with other dogs. She is okay with dogs she knows and at one stage was off lead and socialising well. However,  she started to confront dogs she was scared of. She won't respond to me when she is in this state so we don't go to areas with lots of dogs. It is just too much for her. I watch her body language closely and if she is fairly relaxed, I will let her have a quick hello with a passing dog. (3 second rule with a stranger dog) She has off lead time in areas we can see all around. If another dog appears, she goes back on her lead. She has better periods. I find winter tricky because the traffic in the dark makes her more anxious and likely to snap as she is on edge anyway. I praise her all the time for polite behaviour around dogs. I don't think she will ever be completely relaxed but she is a rescue and I will never know her full history. Excepting her for herself and managing it was key for less stressful walks.  I did used to feel bad about her not being able to run around but we play lots of games inside and she also has puzzle toys which exercise the brain. We also go for long walks when we can.

I don't think it is food related to be honest. The more I understand her, the more I can usually tell which factors will make her worse. EG Darkness, rain, Noisy motorbikes, One encounter which scares her will often lead to overreaction with any other unknown dog that day. Understanding that it is fear related helped a lot too.

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Re: Food for dog with lots of intolerances
« Reply #36 on: Nov 01, 2015, 16:58 »
I've only managed to see tinned pumpkin on amazon.... I couldn't find it in any stores. When I looked online tesco apparently stock it but I went to a very large tesco and couldn't find it

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« Reply #37 on: Nov 01, 2015, 19:39 »
Tinyplanets: That is exactly what I am doing. He is a rescue as well and I do know he grew up with an aggressive GSD. I manage the same ways and only let him off lead when I can observe the area. The past times it just happened that someone came around the far far corner as he was fetching his ball and he took off (he was far away from me). Like I said, it is "old" behavior that I had managed, so likely a phase of returning to it. Hoping it will get better again. Unfortunately the areas I can play here are always likely to have dogs walk by (lots of dogs here), which is fine as long as I see them before he does, and not playing fetch at all is not an option (he absolutely needs his full blown run or he will go crazy). But I am sure I can get it managed again. I make sure to be extra aware and if it does happen consequence is we stop playing immediately, so he should get it eventually again.


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« Reply #38 on: Nov 01, 2015, 20:05 »
Personally I'll never let my dog off lead anywhere.... He ran off once and was almost on train tracks. The only off lead action he'll ever have is on a 10 meter long lead where I can control the situation.

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« Reply #39 on: Nov 02, 2015, 01:00 »
Mindful we are currently off topic but I would enjoy walks far less if ours were unpredictable off lead. I appreciate off lead walking with solid recall is an issue for many....maaybe worth reading a book called Total Recall by Pippa Mattinson. Even old dogs with a history can learn new tricks.

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« Reply #40 on: Nov 02, 2015, 21:00 »
I've seen tinned pumpkin in Waitrose and Tesco. However I find sweet potato works in the same way. Cook in microwave like you would a potato.

If you specifically want pumpkin buy it now while in season, microwave the flesh then mash it up. Spread it on a baking tray with non-stick bottom and dry at low temp in oven. It turns a bit leathery once dry. Cut into pieces and can be frozen and reconstituted with water as and when needed.
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« Reply #41 on: Nov 03, 2015, 07:44 »
I have just received a message/comment regarding the difference between pumpkin and sweet potato:
"Sweet potato doesn't work in the same way as pumpkin, it is carbohydrate rich. Butternut squash, however does but the advice to buy pumpkin now and dehydrate or cook/freeze is a great one."
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Re: Food for dog with lots of intolerances
« Reply #42 on: Nov 03, 2015, 18:02 »
I have just received a message/comment regarding the difference between pumpkin and sweet potato:
"Sweet potato doesn't work in the same way as pumpkin, it is carbohydrate rich. Butternut squash, however does but the advice to buy pumpkin now and dehydrate or cook/freeze is a great one."
Thank you to the member for pointing this out.

Well that got me intrigued.
Why doesn't sweet potato work in the same way as pumpkin ? I presumed fibre content

How similar in content and nutrition are sweet potato, pumpkin, and butternut squash ?
I use a nutritional website for working out menus for my dog so I looked them up per 100g of raw flesh

                                  Sweet Potato                                         Pumpkin                                Butternut squash
calories                             86                                                           26                                          63
Fibre                                  12%                                                         2%                                       11%                                               
Protein                                2g                                                          1g                                           1g
Carbohydrate                   20g                                                         6g                                          16g

Which I thought was really interesting as pumpkin has hardly any fibre in it, and butternut squash is actually closer to sweet potato than pumpkin nutrition wise in 3 of the 4 areas, one of which is carbohydrate. Nutrition wise I would say sweet potato and butternut squash are similar rather than pumpkin and butternut squash.

Any other thoughts any one ?
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Re: Food for dog with lots of intolerances
« Reply #43 on: Nov 06, 2015, 20:35 »
He is still rather constipated  :( But I am just now adding some pumpkin, so I am going to wait for a little longer to see if there is any effect. It does make me wonder though if the food is generally not good for him?

Part of me thinks it is "funny" how I went from a diarrhea dog to the exact opposite... ???

He is also quite stressed lately as people here have started shooting fireworks on Halloween and have not stopped since. Every evening there are at least a couple going off  >:(

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« Reply #44 on: Nov 07, 2015, 06:44 »
Yes, the firework season is very bad for our furry friends.  Happily, it is almost over.  When I have given similar wet food (and raw) to mine, the stool has been as you describe.  I had hoped that by now your dog would have adjusted to it but it seems not.  IMO you have two choices - stick with it for a bit longer and experiment with top ups of fibre containing food or switch to dry food.  Have a think about it. 
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