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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #60 on: Feb 05, 2016, 16:50 »
After looking at the website again it would appear to be Norwegian even though it's all in GBP.
The problem I have is my cav is only 6.5kg and most of these cold pressed foods are in 15kg bags or seem to have chicken or grain. Will have to continue my quest z :D

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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #61 on: Feb 05, 2016, 17:24 »
Vobra are a dog food manufacturer in the Netherlands, one of their brands is the cold pressed  "Impress Your Dog" available from Natural Pet Nutrition, Northern Ireland.
http://vobra.com/pressed-feed.html

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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #62 on: Feb 05, 2016, 18:44 »
Hi all about chutney, I have indeed used Black angus and my dog got on well with it as she has all the cold pressed foods. It actually smells similar to gentle and Markus Muhle but the kibble is a smaller size. Some people may be put off by the large size of some of the cold pressed pellets but my 6.2 kg dog managed them fine and they can easily be softened with warm water.
Although I would love smaller bags, I think you will be fine with 5kg if it will be your dogs main food.  I like to use cold pressed for occasional meals and treats so a 2kg bag would be ideal.  I used to feed part nature diet and part cold pressed and 5kg still used to keep all right.

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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #63 on: Feb 05, 2016, 19:08 »
Thanks Seaweed & Tinyplanets,

I'm looking for grain free and black Angus has brown rice added unfortunately. Ideally I'd like sweet potato instead. All the cold pressed foods seem to either contain chicken or rice

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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #64 on: Feb 05, 2016, 21:39 »
Maybe have a look at Lukuluss Duck & Lamb.

It contains dried potato flakes & sweet potato.

I believe that due to lower temperatures in manufacturing cold-pressed  (than dry extruded) there needs to be something in composition to allow ingredients to bind. Green mineral clay sits in my mind (although I do not know a great deal re cold pressed & am most keen not to give wrong info).

Link below should take you to composition of the food I mentioned  (scroll to composition & click to expand).

http://m.zooplus.co.uk/detailsInfo/shop/dogs/dry_dog_food/lukullus/444185#description

Guru Surf & Turf is absent of chicken but not grain free, as has brown rice in composition.

I dont feed grains purely because taking my Lab off a dry extruded kibble (which contained it) reduced anal gland issues. I must stress that I do NOT know for certain that rice was the issue. I think, as owners, some of us can be pretty quick to conclude our dogs have genuine allergies or dietary intolerances......terms like hypoallergenic & grain free have arguably to some extent convinced some of us that some of our dogs are perhaps less food tolerant than they might actually be.

I continue to follow the cold pressed segment (& other alternatives to dry extruded)  with great interest.

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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #65 on: Feb 06, 2016, 07:02 »
Please note that there is a thread on the storage of cold pressed dog food here.  It has not been merged with this one as there are concurrent discussions going on at the moment and it would confuse them.
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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #66 on: Feb 06, 2016, 10:16 »
Thanks - Re forum housekeeping  I was mindful the rice chat crossed a little between dietary & shelf life discussions & also saw your comments in the other thread  ;)

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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #67 on: Feb 06, 2016, 14:07 »
I think that Chutney's posts illustrate the need for more cold pressed food products with different formulas, particularly grain/chicken free and containing sweet potato.  I am hoping that this will happen in the future.
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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #68 on: Feb 07, 2016, 19:54 »
Thanks everyone

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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #69 on: Feb 08, 2016, 10:43 »
The domain cold pressed dog food.co.uk has some information which might be of interest to pet owners. Looks like it is Gentle and Scampers.
For those who feed a cold pressed product, please could you comment on the smaller feeding amounts and how your dog has adjusted to it? I used to find this a problem with my three. There is some advice about transition on the Farmfood website and they mention the need for the dog's stomach to adjust to the smaller quantity. Any thoughts please?
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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #70 on: Feb 08, 2016, 18:15 »
My dog came from dogstrust with a bag of Arden Grange and some tins of chum.I f I remember correctly, we had instructions to feed 120g daily of AG and a spoonful of chum with each meal. Although an initial look around indicated that Aden Grange was fairly decent, I did not want to feed a baked food.  By the time I had researched, changed my mind  several times and finally ordered some Markus Muhle, I had run out of Arden Grange. My neighbour gave me a little Wagg until the new food arrived. She was just given the MM alone when it came but she has always seemed to cope. I worked out that I needed to feed 90gs a day of MM and no chum. Funnily enough, I had no problems with hunger. The first week we had her and when still on the Arden Grange, we changed her evening feed from 4.30 to 5.30pm and a couple of days she had some hunger sickness.  A small snack at 4ish solved that problem but we were able to phase that out when she was on the MM. I actually had more issues with hunger when I switched to raw complete. She started eating clods of earth. I didn't adjust the amount of raw but added some gentle for treats and the odd meal.

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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #71 on: Feb 08, 2016, 18:40 »
Just to add, Coaster, that I found all the cold pressed food produced healthy looking stools. Not as hard as with her diet now but firm and after having to have her anal glands done in the first few weeks, I haven't had to have them expressed since. Like you, I can't say for sure if the food can be credited with keeping them from getting blocked or her previous food leading to them needed to be done.

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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #72 on: Feb 08, 2016, 21:19 »
Thanks for clarifying the output quality.

Gland issues aside, I have own reasons to hold back on introducing/trialing cold-pressed - Alleged Carb levels......

Some dog food companies give carb levels on request,  (albeit I am yet to receive a breakdown of simple & complex carbs as separate percentages). When dog food carb levels are unavailable from food companies I use data from this website, (a.a.d.f.) , or do my own maths based on what percentage remains after deducting numbered percentages.....(a  crude method, not agreed by some suppliers).

I am also interested to know more re pro's & con's of cold pressed & pro's con's of mineral clay & kieselgur.


To put my carb interest into context........My lab had mast cell tumour removed last year. I feed current food on back of, (stateside), dog cancer vet advice alleging potential benefits from feeding low carb diet, (to dogs at risk). Veterinary opinions vary widely. I also know of a highly regarded cancer treating holistic vet that recommends a specific cold-pressed brand. My own oncology vet does not regard diet or carb levels as being relevant to risk..... I am absolutely NOT alleging any risks from any foods or food types - I remain open minded whilst trying to do what's sensible for our two dogs.


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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #73 on: Feb 09, 2016, 06:18 »
A friend of mine had a dog who died from bone cancer just last year.  I did not know of the reputed link between carbohydrate and cancer until she told me.  I don't know if there is any definite, proven link but having had two of my own pets die from cancer,  I can understand that an owner would want to do all they can to prevent acceleration of the disease. 
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Re: Markus Muhle and other cold pressed dog food
« Reply #74 on: Feb 09, 2016, 11:02 »
Thanks for reply. Really keen not to wrongfully deter folk from buying suitable foods or food types......More info re my dog and current agenda to reduce carbs here



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