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Mopreme

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SBT puppy food
« on: Sep 01, 2015, 22:15 »
Hi in about 3 weeks ill be picking up our SBT puppy. this isn't my first ever dog and we also currently have a whippet in our family.

But like everyone, i want to give this puppy the best start to life. the breeder is using some pets at home puppy dry food, but we want so slowly change to a higher quality food over a period of 3-4 weeks.

would that be slow enough change over to not upset the pups belly?

also i have read so many different things about the puppy food which brand is better, which brand has higher meat content, what to switch over to after a year, which has fillers and protein and oils. and now im so confused on what food to get.

So after looking at various places i come down to 2 types of food that would fit my budget and i think has a higher protien content, of over 25%

its arden grange puppy / junior then when older change to adult.
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Pero puppy / junior then when older change to Pero SBT

what one should i go for or is there other suggestions around the same price?

thanks

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Re: SBT puppy food
« Reply #1 on: Sep 02, 2015, 11:53 »
Hello and welcome to the forum.  It's good that you are giving some consideration to providing pup with a good diet right from the outset. The transit period that you speak of is quite long so puppy should have no problems with the change in food as long as the new one is suitable.  You don't mention what the breeder is using other than it is a Pets at Home product.  Their own brand is Wainwright's and some of them score quite well on here, particularly the grain free ones so it would be worth finding out exactly which one is being used right now. 

I am not familiar with either of those products that you mention and having just checked the Dog Food Directory they are not reviewed.  For anyone who can help with your query, the website page for Arden Grange puppy food is here and Pero puppy/junior food web page is here.   I will try to have a look at the ingredients later and report back, although hopefully someone else will take a look too.  Meanwhile, if you would like to put the ingredients into the Instant Review Generator yourself, the web page is here.

It is worth mentioning that you don't have to go for life stage food.  The only difference between puppy and adult food is the protein level, the former being higher than the latter.  Quite a few companies sell high protein, grain free products that can be given to dogs at all stages of life.  This can be helpful because it means you are not having to manage another transition. 
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Re: SBT puppy food
« Reply #2 on: Sep 02, 2015, 18:07 »
Sorry Dottie but Pero and Arden G are in the directory. Pero scores poorly , Arden G is better. I agree it would be a good idea to find out which Pets at Home the breeder is feeding as some of their foods are quite reasonable and not too expensive. I would recommended deciding on what sort of ingredients you are looking for and using the filters to select some others to help you choose. Personally I do not feed my dogs kibble but I do feel variety is important, so it might be worth selecting more than one brand. Also I wondered what you feed your whippet?.

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 02, 2015, 18:34 »
I was in a rush this morning and found Arden Grange and Pero but not the puppy versions.  Anyway, have located them now and Arden Grange is here.   Pero puppy food is here.  Arden Grange appears to be the better one.
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Re: SBT puppy food
« Reply #4 on: Sep 03, 2015, 22:30 »
I'm not as knowledgeable about food as people like Dottie, who has answered you but I do know a little about pups and the importance of giving them a good start in life.  May I suggest that you take a look at 'The Puppy Plan'. It is a joint Kennel Club/Dogs Trust project to help people with Puppy Socialisation and is just as important as good nutrition (if not more so) to make sure a pup gets a good start in life

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« Reply #5 on: Sep 04, 2015, 06:58 »
Mopreme - just wondering what food you are giving to your Whippet? The reason that I ask is that there are some very good quality foods e.g. Applaws,  Eden, Evolution, Orijen that are high protein and score very well in the Dog Food Directory.  Some of them are for all life stages. There are more - just use the Ratings filter on the left and move the slider to 4.5 - 5.  Although they may seem expensive, if you are feeding two with the same product then you can save considerably by buying the larger bags - they are much more economical.  Also, the dog often doesn't need quite so much quantity wise so you save money there too.   Of course you will need to do your sums because the initial outlay for a large bag can be high. Also, it is best to purchase a small quantity at first in order to establish whether it suits the dog.  Some reputable companies offer a money back guarantee if there are problems with their product. 

If you have a proper pet store close by you might want to check if they have their own White Label products.  You would need to look carefully at the ingredient list (you should do that with any food) and, if possible choose grain free.  If it has sweet potato in it that is good.  We have at least one retailer on here who sells such a product and reports that they are good sellers.

Having looked at your choices again, as I mentioned earlier the Arden Grange scores best but it has maize in it - link.  I would be inclined to avoid that ingredient, particularly with your breed of dog. 

Lastly, there is a thread here about what kind of things to look for when buying pet food; it might be helpful.
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Re: SBT puppy food
« Reply #6 on: Sep 05, 2015, 20:45 »
Hi my whippet is on arden grange adult.  but do plan on having them eat the same food (if both their stomachs agree with it)

we also have a pet food warehouse where i live (wesellpetfood.co.uk) and they are cheaper than most shops around here.

My budget is around £35 for a large bag,

I have read so much stuff on the internet,  im just confused what brand to buy now.  some say buy burns,  some say arden grange, pero, beta.  i just want whats best for my dog. and the new pup  when he arrives. :(

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Re: SBT puppy food
« Reply #7 on: Sep 06, 2015, 08:53 »
I know how confusing all the information can be. In the course of my research there's been many times when it's 'done my head in'! I can only recommend studying the ingredients page on this site. Deciding what you feel is acceptable. Look at the ingredients in the foods you mention, are there any highlighted? Look at these, are you prepared to feed them. If someone is recommending a food, ask why they think it's good. Dottie posted sometime ago that many people feed foods on recommendation but don't know what is in it. Many dogs do fine on poor quality food. I know mine had Pedigree Chum for many years. It's only when you change to a higher quality you realise how much better they can be. Also in terms of cost it can often work out cheaper to feed a more expensive food as they need less. Also you can change about, infact I would recommend variety. Mine tried lots of different foods before I settled on raw, occasional tins and home cooking. 

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« Reply #8 on: Sep 06, 2015, 11:04 »
DQ's post has it in a nutshell really.  I do share your confusion about what to feed your dogs.  I've been where you are now and to a certain extent I still am because it can be confusing.  I can't really give you any advice about the sum of money that you mention because I am no good at maths and there are so many variables e.g. the amount the dog needs/wants and the fact that better quality (i.e. more expensive) food can often be given at a lower amount.

I will try to make things a little clearer in order to help you to be not quite so confused by it all:
* You have chosen dry food so decide whether you want grain free or not. 
* Look at the ingredient list - the (named) meat source should be right at the top and the more that is there, the better the product will be.
* Check the product on the Dog Food Directory of this website and as DQ says, if there are ingredients that you don't understand, click on them for an explanation.

Using the Dog Food Directory filters:
The Dog Food Directory of this website is there to help us make the decision about what to feed our dog.  The filters can be found to the left of page and once you are familiar with using them it will make it much easier for your to decide what to feed.  You can tweak these to whatever you desire, including cost.  Using them properly will help you to make your choice. Here is what I would suggest as a start:

* Type of Food - dry complete so remove the ticks from the other ones.
* Food Properties - Natural, hypoallergenic and clearly labelled.  Select grain free if you don't want grain in the results.
* Rating - with your budget in mind, I would suggest moving the slider to 3.5 to 5 stars.
* Avoid Ingredients - I always use Avoid all red ingredients. You can place a tick in the cereal box if you want grain free.
* Nutrient Levels - for now, I would leave them as they are.
* Click 'Go'.

I've just done this and it has returned seven pages but it would return less if I had selected grain free/no cereals.  Once you have got your results it is just a case of looking more closely at the ones you fancy. Click 'Back to results at the top left side of the page to go back to your original list.  If you look at the dials at the bottom of each individual page you will see how much protein/fat etc the food contains.  The ones that have a higher protein tend to be better. For your two dogs I would be looking for a minimum of 26% because they are young and active.  Puppy specific food tends to be about 30% so if you can find a food at that level you could feed it to both of them if you want to change the Whippet from Arden Grange. 

Don't forget to ask your pet shop if they have their own white label food but the same applies to this as any product - read the label.  I know of a pet food supplier who has their own branded products but some of them are frankly awful so you do need to be careful.

I do realise that all this sounds complicated but if you spend a little time on the Directory and reading up it will stand you in good stead for the rest of your dogs' lives and will hopefully keep them in good health. 
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