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drewlo

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Vet prescribed diet help?
« on: Dec 23, 2015, 11:25 »
I have a 7 month old Staffie that keeps chewing and biting his paws till they swell or bleed, has eye and ear infections and an itch bottom. I went to the vest yesterday who have determined that he may have a food intolerance and recommended that we try the Purina HA Hypoallergenic which apparently has very small amounts of each protein which wont be enough to upset the dog. Not only is this very expensive (£24 for 3kg)  after lots of research and reading your article  I dont think is necessary. Please can you help?

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Re: Vet prescribed diet help?
« Reply #1 on: Dec 23, 2015, 20:25 »
Hello and welcome to the forum.   As you know, the food that your vet recommends is a hydrolyzed protein type (there are several on the market).  They consist of a single protein source that is processed to break the structure of it down into tiny particles that the dog's immune system will not recognize as an allergen.  The carbohydrate source is usually one that the dog is unlikely to be sensitive to.  I assume that the reason this was recommended is because at the moment you do not actually know what your dog is intolerant of.  Sensitivity tests can be done but I would imagine they are expensive and AFAIK not always accurate.   The idea behind these products is that the dog starts out with it then very slowly different food types are added, one by one to elicit the dog's response.  It takes a long time and needs to be done carefully with strict attention to diet (no treats).

As you are not keen on this type of product I think you should consider a good quality wet food.  The reasons are:
1.  They usually have a much simpler formula than dry food thereby reducing the risk of intolerance to ingredients.
2.  The risk of storage mites is much reduced - link.  In a dog that is allergic to these critters, they can cause all the symptoms that you describe.

Alternatively you might want to consider a raw diet.  However, you will need freezer space.  Also, unless you feed one of the raw complete products such as Natural Instinct, Nutriment, Natures Menu (there are more), you will have to do some homework to get the correct balance of muscle/organ meat/bone and vegetables.  There are plenty of Facebook groups that can help you with this and there is a lot of information on the Internet.

If you are minded to try a wet diet I would suggest that you go for ones that have a single source of protein and that you keep the dog on that one product for at least one or two weeks with nothing else being given (including treats).  This is the only way you will be absolutely sure of the dog's response.   Once you are sure the dog is OK then you can try another type of protein.  The Dog Food Directory of this website is useful for narrowing down the search for suitable wet food products.  Normally the advice is to choose grain free dog food and there are quite a few in this category.  However, there are one or two good quality products that contain white or brown rice and they might be helpful here because although a few dogs cannot tolerate rice, most are OK with it. 

The company Naturediet have plenty of fact sheets about the issue of intolerance and might be worth considering. One of them is here and their website is here.  Their sensitive version is made from salmon and very few dogs are allergic to fish.  It does tend to be a bit smelly but the dogs quite like it for that reason.

Don't overlook the fact that as your dog is scratching there is always the risk of bacterial infection of the skin.  If it is red and inflamed, see your vet as antibiotics may be needed.  Also consider medicated baths.  You could ask your vet about this but I have heard that Neem is recommended.  I have used Selene for eczema and found it helpful.  Sebocalm is a gentle, soapless shampoo that hydrates the skin and may be helpful.

Please post back if you require further help and we would be grateful if you could let us know how you get on with your dog's problem.
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Re: Vet prescribed diet help?
« Reply #2 on: Dec 23, 2015, 20:30 »
Hello and welcome to the forum, It is hard to say what would be best to feed without knowing what is causing the problem.

A starting point may be to find a food which has very few ingredients and see if there is an improvement.  It would be useful to know what your budget is and what type of food you prefer. Also what your dog is currently having.

Some foods which have a small ingredient list include, the naturediet and forthglade (wet food) Fish4dogs has a relatively small ingredient list and is grain free.  I am sure others may have had some experience with different foods , As dottie says,  If you tried one and some of the problems disappear then you could try adding more ingredients and monitoring to see if anything causes problems. It must be distressing to see your dog sore and itchy. I hope you can get to the bottom of his problems. In a sense it will be easier if food is causing his problems because you have some control over that.


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Re: Vet prescribed diet help?
« Reply #3 on: Dec 24, 2015, 09:36 »
I had an elderly rescued dog with a very similar history. Regarding management I found these things to be helpful:

* Keep a close on the dog for signs of ear infection.  The symptoms are usually scratching and shaking the head.  The dog may also walk with it's head to one side.  The area around the ear may feel warm to the touch.  If you suspect this, take the dog to the vet straight away as ear infections always need veterinary care and are very painful.  They often exacerbate licking and chewing of paws.

* Foot care - wash and thoroughly dry the feet when the dog comes in from a walk.  Apply moisturizing cream and if possible cover the feet with socks.  I used a few different types including Dermapaw.  There is a Dermapaw video on YouTube  which explains how to make a sock harness.  For some reason the link does not work properly so just type Dermapaw into the search box in YouTube and you will see it.  I used to use this method and for my small dog first size baby socks worked well.

* If the dog is having problems with emptying it's anal glands, make sure you take him to the vet to have this done.  I found with my dog that this needed to be done quite regularly, every six to eight weeks. 

* Ask the vet if there is any suspicion of mites.  My dog did not have mites but they are not uncommon and can cause the symptoms that you describe.

* A fish diet may be helpful because the omega oils are said to promote health of both coat and skin. 

Having a dog like this is a challenge and you need to do as much research yourself as possible.  Hopefully a change in food might help but you need to do things slowly and methodically to find out what works and what doesn't.  My Itchy Dog may be helpful.
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