Trust Me, I'm a Vet 3.5.17 BBC2

[Dottie]

Trust Me, I'm a Vet begins next week on BBC2.
Wednesday, 3rd May 2017 at 8pm. Three episodes and the first one includes discussion about food.

[COASTER]

Thanks for heads up on this

[Seaweed]

Dottie, thank you for alerting us regarding "Trust me, I'm a Vet" the three part tv series that starts tonight, here is some further information
http://www.petbusinessworld.co.uk/news/feed/bbc-investigates-uk-pet-food

[COASTER]

Not expecting wonders but will be recording it.

[Seaweed]

PFMA Statement on 'Trust me, I'm a Vet', regarding the Nottingham University research.
http://www.pfma.org.uk/news/pfma-statement-on-trust-me-im-a-vet-regarding-the-nottingham-university-research

[COASTER]

Granted I have been up since 530am today but that was boring to point of yawn inducing.

The food article opened showing some low meat content foods before seemingly just focusing on mineral content.

Allegedly the proposed solution given appeared to be to feed both wet & dry foods, keep changing type/brand & to be mindful that more expensive foods can be sub standard.

I am sure many owners will have seen the programme  & are now confused.

I lost interest & turned off after the flea advice article.

[Meg]

The focus regarding the section dedicated to dog food was on the mineral content of wet foods and dry foods. Interestingly the University of Nottingham released results in January of their research into how the correct balance of minerals is significantly important especially to the growing puppy.

By analysing hair samples from healthy dogs (a control group)  and from dogs with Elbow dysplasia and MCDP, their results proved that the dogs with these skeletal diseases had lower levels of the minerals Copper (27% lower) and Zinc (21%), and in one particular breed  lower Copper, Zinc and Sulphur.

This research also mentioned a study showing the mineral content did not comply with EU guidelines in a high percentage of complete dog food as was mentioned in the program.

The outline of the study is here: https://scholar.google.co.uk/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=npO5djcAAAAJ&sortby=pubdate&citation_for_view=npO5djcAAAAJ:jtusTj6o6osC with further details of the research and results viewed via the pdf.

There is a BMJ abstract of the study here:
http://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/early/2017/02/20/vr.103953

[Dottie]

Thank you for the links and information. Re the item on nutrition, I too did not expect much as slots in programmes are usually too short to be meaningful. The subject did take me by surprise though and was informative.  Unfortunately it left the concerned pet owner in a quandary. They told us to give variety to the dog then said that changes in food should be done gradually - more guidance would have been useful. IIRC they mentioned mixing wet and dry food as being useful for meeting mineral requirements. I sometimes read of people doing this so wonder if it is becoming a trend.  The thing that they failed to mention is that one solution is to give a supplement.

The outcome of the item on dental hygiene was predictable but useful and might hopefully encourage pet owners to brush their dog's teeth. Bones were not entered into the option list, maybe because they are not recommending by veterinary  associations. Many people swear by them to clean their pet's teeth. However, the vet pointed out that only brushing will clean the plaque at, and under the teeth/gum margin. 

[patp]

If it does nothing more than encourage people to read the list of ingredients it will have achieved something.

My sister-in-law insists on just feeding her dogs chicken and rice. When I point out that it might be a bit deficient in minerals she looks at me as though I am mad! I am sure she will think that the programme does not apply to her either.

[patp]

Is there anywhere that I can find the recommended list of vitamins and minerals that my dog should have. I would like to compare it to the bag of dog food that I fee.

I feed Breakthrough which is a complete food aimed at dogs with behaviour problems. I have looked at their website but cannot find a list of ingredients.

[Dottie]

Hello and welcome to the forum patp. Is this of any use to you?  It is the F.E.D.I.A.F. Nutritional Guidelines for Complete and Complementary Pet Food for Cats and Dogs.

[Meg]

Welcome to the forum patp! 

Further information and a link to the ingredients for the food you asked about is here: http://www.breakthroughdog.co.uk/breakthrough-ingredients/

Entering these ingredients into the allaboutdogfood Instant Dog Food Reviewer here: https://www.allaboutdogfood.co.uk/instant-dog-food-review.php gives a score of 2.6 out of 5.

[patp]

Thank you for your replies. As Breakthrough is designed to help with behaviour problems I don't have much choice really. It is very effective at calming my dog's anxieties.
I have emailed the company to ask for their comments and will inform you of their reply.

If it proves to be deficient in any vital mineral, and giving a variety of dog foods is not an option, what are our options. Is it advisable to feed a mineral supplement?

[Dottie]

SF-50 is a supplement with a wide range of vitamins and minerals.

[patp]

Thank you.

My worry, now, is that If I give my dog a supplement, on top of his complete food, I may be overdosing him.