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Dottie

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Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« on: Jul 17, 2018, 11:41 »
An item of news from the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (preliminary report):
FDA investigating potential link between diet, canine heart disease.
Dog heart disease linked to grain-free food, FDA says.

They report that they are seeing “.....unusual level of reports of heart condition in dogs eating certain pet foods containing peas, lentils, pulses or potatoes as main ingredients.” They mention some dogs having low taurine levels. This is an amino acid necessary for heart health - link.
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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« Reply #1 on: Jul 17, 2018, 18:56 »
Interesting. I see they are suggesting that the issue may be due to having nutrients missing from the diet.  I read something about dogs being unable to process pea protein well so it just passes through. Can't remember where though so I don't know how reliable it was. I usually avoid foods with peas as when I fed a food containing quite a few, my dog lost weight on more than the recommended daily amount. She did seem to be passing the peas straight through but I thought it was because they were dried. She didn't do as well on it as she does now. I suppose if potato or pea/ lentil makes up a good percentage of the food,  the dog would need to consume more food to get enough nutrients.

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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« Reply #2 on: Jul 17, 2018, 19:36 »
Interesting post Dottie. Dr Karen Becker mentioned DCM, on Mercola, Healthy Pets recently "Dogs Fed Grain-Free Kibble May Be at Risk for Heart Disease"
https://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2018/07/09/link-between-dog-food-taurine-deficiency-and-dcm.aspx

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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« Reply #3 on: Jul 18, 2018, 11:27 »
Here is a response I received from Butternut Box regarding this research-obviously their comments relate specifically to their own food but it does echo a lot of the information contained in the Dr Karen Becker article shared by Seaweed. Hopefully it may be useful to other forum members  :)

"Recently, The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an alert to pet owners and veterinary professionals about reports of canine dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) in dogs eating certain pet foods containing peas, lentils, other legume seeds, or potatoes as main ingredients.
Diets in cases reported to the FDA frequently list potatoes or multiple legumes such as peas, lentils, other “pulses” (seeds of legumes), and their protein, starch and fibre derivatives early in the ingredient list, indicating that they are main ingredients. It is not yet known how these ingredients are linked to cases of DCM.
Previous other studies have linked very high fibre, lamb and rice foods (that is, lamb and rice fed together), and very low protein diets to this DCM heart condition.
Studies have also found that animals fed heat processed diets have lower taurine concentrations that animals fed non-heat processed diets. This is thought to be related to the Maillard cooking reaction. The Maillard reaction is a chemical reaction that gives food its browning colour and occurs with rapid heating at temperatures above 140°C.
Our meals’ main ingredient is 60% high-quality fresh meat and 40% pulses, vegetables, seeds and botanicals. Of this 40%, 10% of our ingredients are lentils and 7% are peas.
Lentils are a rich source of protein, B vitamins, iron and soluble fibre. Iron is an essential nutrient, meaning you must get it from food. Iron carries oxygen in blood around the body and is needed to support red blood cells. Fibre does more than just keep your dog regular. Evidence shows that diets higher in this ruff stuff slows down the rate of digestion, leading to a slower absorption of glucose and regulates blood sugar levels.
Based on research and the advice of our vet nutritionists, we choose to add fresh vegetables, herbs and seeds to our food to provide a balanced diet, rich in vitamins, omega fatty acids and antioxidants.
Taurine is found in red meats, heart, liver, dark white meats (i.e. the dark meat of chicken and turkey), white fish and shellfish. Our meals contain 60% meat from a combination of prime muscle, heart and liver.
As we gently cook our meals at low temperatures (90°C), the Maillard reaction does not occur."
Our veterinary nutritionists have assured that due to our high animal-protein content and our gentle cooking process, our meals are rich in available taurine.”

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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« Reply #4 on: Jul 31, 2018, 18:11 »
17% of lentils and peas seems quite high a percentage particularly on a dry matter basis.

It'll be interesting to see how the current news focus will impact the pet food market. Grain free over the past few years has become the in thing and as the famous saying goes "not all grain free foods were created equally..."

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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« Reply #5 on: Aug 09, 2018, 12:21 »
This post interests me a great deal - thank you for the information and the links.  The article by Dr K Becker mentions both my breeds.

We had a dalmatian who we fed on a grain-free expensive dry food for the second half of her life due to runny stools and she developed DCM for the last 2 years of her life.  Now we have a rescue golden retriever and I automatically put him on the same food but now it seems as if I'm not doing him any favours  and would be better reverting to a normal dry food possibly with grains rather than legumes and potato/sweet potato. 

Now to trawl through the choices weighing up price against ratings and finding an acceptable food that suits him. 

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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« Reply #6 on: Aug 09, 2018, 12:42 »
Hello and welcome to the forum.  This might be of use to you. It is David's response which he recently published on his Facebook page. If you are not a FB user, here is the text:
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Since the FDA's investigation into the potential link between diet and canine heart disease was announced last month, the pet press has been whipping up a frenzy but before we all get carried away, let's look at the facts -

1. Cases of canine dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) appear to be on the rise, at least in the US, particularly in breeds not usually associated with the condition.

2. Of the cases under investigation, the diets "frequently" (not universally) contained significant amounts of potatoes or legumes (primarily peas and lentils) "but it is not yet known how these ingredients are linked to cases of DCM".

3. The amino acid taurine may or may not have something to do with it.

And that's really all we know so far. Not a lot.

And yet pet commentators, pet food manufacturers and even respected news outlets are throwing around sensationalistic, unfounded and often contradictory headlines like it's going out of fashion.

Interestingly, though, their conclusions usually seem to back up their previously held opinions. For example, some producers of grain based pet foods are pinning it on potato. Those that use potato are blaming peas. For the raw lobby, dry foods in general are to blame. And for any blogger trying to boost their reach, a good old *INSERT INGREDIENT HERE* IS KILLING YOUR DOG headline is always going to go a long way.

And that's the problem, the information so far available is so patchy that you can make it fit basically any narrative you want to push. So until the investigation sheds at least a little more light, I urge you to take all of the speculation with a huge pinch of salt.

I'll of course keep you posted with the findings as they come out so stay calm and watch this space.

https://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeteri…/…/CVMUpdates/ucm613305.htm
It seems far too early to say whether there is a link and that there needs to be properly controlled studies.

Many pet owners believe the hype that goes with grain free products and assume that grain is bad for their dogs. That isn't always correct. Not all grains are equal - some are better nutritionally for the dog. The Dog Food Ingredient Glossary has more information.  Brown rice in particular is thought to be useful.  One of my dogs doesn't do well on potato and pea products so I choose to give her food containing brown rice and it suits her very well. If I give her grain free wet food for a change I choose sweet potato or butternut squash. 

IMHO a lot depends on the dog and what suits them but I would imagine that for the majority of dogs grain would be OK as long as there isn't too much of it - it is all about balance and the right type.
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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« Reply #9 on: Sep 04, 2018, 16:58 »
interesting reading , it all makes sense. :)

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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« Reply #10 on: Sep 07, 2018, 12:10 »
Truth about Pet Food on the FDA and DCM. https://truthaboutpetfood.com/the-most-recent-fda-betrayal/

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Re: Report from FDA (USA) re Dilated Cardiomyopathy
« Reply #11 on: Sep 11, 2018, 18:16 »
Susan Thixton, Investigating the Grain Free Link to Heart Disease with Blinders On.
https://truthaboutpetfood.com/investigating-the-grain-free-link-to-heart-disease-with-blinders-on/


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