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Re: New member would like advice on diet dog foods
« Reply #15 on: Jun 29, 2017, 12:25 »


Coaster, I wonder, do you think that the female labrador you mention may be from a working line, and was carrying a few extra pounds temporarily?

Perhaps....She is a yellow lab but I had thought working line were mostly in blacks, (also knowing there are show line blacks). The visual differences between show and working can be quite significant but adjustments to condition and weight can change the look of a dog. So many factors...some show lines are shorter at the shoulders/withers yet my working line Lab is short. My working line Lab has a narrow head but I have seen working line blacks with a wider/thicker head as in  some drakes head (should read as one word but my phone won't allow it), lines. 

The subject of show vs working lines is controversial.  I know of one reputable breeder who breeds pups from show and work lines. I seem to recall reading an article suggesting changes to weight and condition in a dog could allow a dog to compete in both FT & SH if suitably conditioned. I don't know enough about this to speak in further detail and don't think there has been a UK dual champion for many years if at all.

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Re: New member would like advice on diet dog foods
« Reply #16 on: Jun 29, 2017, 13:36 »
Thanks, Meg, very interesting. 

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« Reply #17 on: Jun 29, 2017, 17:05 »
A slight tangent from the thread title.....  for which I  apologise.... though this article from a breeder of labradors whose dogs are both worked and shown may be of interest.

The article is called "The difficulties in breeding dual purpose Labradors" and is linked here:

http://www.thelabradorretrieverclub.com/articles/jvrosedualpurpose.htm


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« Reply #18 on: Jun 30, 2017, 20:23 »
Thanks for the link.....I had seen it before but struggled to find it when posting here.

Incidentally the Lab pictured in the article shares lineage with my dog.

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« Reply #19 on: Aug 30, 2017, 16:17 »
Just a quick update for all those who helped me out with their advice. Half a kilo has gone. Vet says that's steady progress as it does take time. I went for switching to the low fat MW food and fewer treats, reduced gradually. Seems to be working. Thanks to all for your support. We'll carry on working towards the ultimate goal!

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« Reply #20 on: Aug 30, 2017, 16:37 »
Thanks for the update.

Good you dog has lost some weight albeit I would have expected more loss than 500g over 2 months....even if you seem happy with slower weight loss.

I have some questions.....

1. You prior confirmed others were giving treats and tit bits. How confident are you that this has stopped ?

2. What is the exact kibble type & daily weiight amount  you are feeding, (MWH Farmers mix from recollection).

3. Did Mark go so far as to advise a specified daily amount & if so how much per day ? 

4. Any increase in retrieving work & running ?

5. Any other changes ?

Really good you popped back to update us with the food news, however, if happy to do so then please answer 1-5 above.

Thanks

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« Reply #21 on: Aug 30, 2017, 17:23 »
Yes I am happy so far as changes made have been very gradual. By that I mean I didn't just swop her immediately to a different food and less of it. I mixed the two foods (old and new) in different proportions for a while , before getting her on to only the low fat one. Then started reducing the portion size bit by bit to the size recommended by MW which was at the lower end of the guide on the packet for the size she needs to be.  I'm using the MW Tracker Mix now (yes it was Farmers before) and now giving her 300g per day split into two meals. This is how MW advised to introduce it in our email exchange. (NB the email from MW came from a different nutrition adviser, not Mark).

Only one person still gives her lots of treats but fortunately she doesn't see them too regularly! I control the rest which she gets for reward based training. People will give her the odd biscuit but it's way less often than before.

Not really much increase in retrieving. We tried to increase the time with the ball on our walks but she just lost interest.  She'd rather be sniffing and generally bouncing around. She only seems to enjoy the ball when there are other dogs involved in the game.  We do play with other dogs a couple of days a week but not every day.

Her kong fillings are healthier now, that's the other change.

The vet said to expect it to take a long time. He also said that food adjustments are made very gradually so that she hardly notices the difference. She's not an obese dog, just a bit overweight, which I guess is why both I and the vet don't feel the need to 'crash diet' her, but we do want her to lose this bit of weight sensibly while she's still young and active.


Apart from what the scales show her waist is looking more defined now so I'm happy it's going in the right direction.

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Re: New member would like advice on diet dog foods
« Reply #22 on: Aug 30, 2017, 21:13 »
Thanks for the further reply.

Do bear in mind that the amount that MWH have suggested will be assuming Zero treats, zero tit  bits & a lack of filled Kongs etc. I would either cut out all of those or make a suitable reduction from the bowl if you truly know the amount. Maybe try restricting your treats to kibble taken from daily food weight and maybe given for presented ball retrieves (which will cause dog to burn off more fat than strolling & sniffing.

I would agree that you are heading in the right direction, however, (without wishing to appear negative), I have seen greater weight changes in my lab over much shorther duration.(I got 2kg off over a few weeks... Nothing drastic just more exercise a bit less in the bowl).

Hope I don't come across badly.....genuinely want to support & assist.


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« Reply #23 on: Aug 31, 2017, 02:17 »
Quote from: Love my lab

Apart from what the scales show her waist is looking more defined now so I'm happy it's going in the right direction.
Yes, absolutely, and well done to you.  :)

And thanks for sharing the information as this could help others too.


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