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The protein options of cold pressed food are increasing. Gentle has a version with goat meat and another with fish. Link.

Naturavetal sell rabbit, lamb and salmon versions. Link.

Naturavetal manufactures complete meals using novel proteins. May be useful as a base for an elimination diet.

Dog foods / Re: Air Dried Dog Food
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 20:15 »
Hello Vivann. I am glad that you have had a productive discussion with the owner of Gentle. Beate has a lot of experience with this type of food.  As you mentioned, it can be supplemented with extra protein and this is what I used to do. I chose the lower fat proteins such as white fish, chicken and turkey. You seem to have narrowed it down now to two products so that has to be a good thing. Now you need to choose just one and see how it goes. If you select cold pressed, remember that it must be weighed because it is heavy and the amount will look small in comparison to kibble. It's so easy to overfeed this food at first. Also, if your dog prefers wet food you can easily soak it in tepid water for 10/15 minutes. Take the transition steady - don't rush it.

Coaster mentions mineral clays in cold pressed food and these are usually included in the Markus Muhle products. I understand that they are there to improve the digestive system so might be helpful for your dog.  Good luck and please let us know how you get on as I am interested in the outcome.

Home cooking / Re: We Cook for Dogs
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 19:22 »
The owner of We Cook for Dogs has launched a new website The Canine Nutritionist. This provides recipes, advice and the necessary supplements. I feel that the diet plans for specific diseases such as pancreatitis, allergy amongst others have the potential for being very useful.  This is an exciting innovation and I hope that it will encourage people to safely home cook for their dogs, particularly if they have difficult to manage illnesses.

General discussion / Re: Veterinary Nutrition Specialists
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 19:14 »
The Canine Nutritionist (Gerald Pepin).   Gerald is the owner of We Cook for Dogs and besides providing recipes, sells the necessary supplements needed to create balanced and complete home cooked  dog food.

Dog foods / Re: Air Dried Dog Food
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 10:45 »
Try one thing at a time, giving it a fair trial of several weeks so that you can properly assess the response. Your choice of Vegi Plus Mixer is a good one as it has a simple recipe. Try to aim for at least 60% meat and for the time being start with one source then add another about a week later. My choice would be white fish if the dog is ok with it. Don’t give anything else but the food. Warm it before serving to increase palatability. Consider an oil supplement such as Efavet capsules,  Viacutan capsules and pump dispenser, Yumega.

You might find that her scavenging decreases once she gets onto a good, well balanced diet.

Home cooking / Re: Home-cooked dog food recipes
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 10:30 »
Hello and welcome to the forum William. Looking at that recipe I am surprised that the dogs are able to do a days work. It really is unbalanced and quite poor.

Dog foods / Re: Air Dried Dog Food
« on: Oct 21, 2020, 10:49 »
White potato is ok but sweet potato has better nutrients. Some dogs don’t tolerate white potato very well - one of mine is in this category. Parsnips and carrots are starchy vegetables. Broccoli and the like have good nutritional value.

My Pet Nutritionist has a Facebook Live video about itchy dogs on Friday, 23rd October 2020 at 7pm.

Dog foods / Re: Air Dried Dog Food
« on: Oct 21, 2020, 10:22 »
Thank you very much for clarifying this issue. I had wondered if the starchy vegetables were cooked because I understand that dogs are ill equipped to digest them unless they are cooked and mashed. I wonder if it is down to how you define the word ‘cook’. To me, the ingredients are cooked to some the extent because the bacteria is removed. You could perhaps take the information to the vet and see what he/she thinks about it.

The products look quite good and easy to prepare and store.  They attract good nutritional ratings on the Dog Food Directory. I also like the simple recipes. AFAIK the Vegi Plus Mixer is the only one of its kind on the market although I stand to be corrected. I think it would be useful if  they sold another variety  with an alternative to potato.

Dog foods / Re: Air Dried Dog Food
« on: Oct 21, 2020, 08:31 »
That's interesting Vivann - well spotted. It doesn't say that the food is raw on their own website:
Gently air drying involves blowing warm air across our ingredients to remove the moisture content. Our meat, fruit and veg are slowly air dried at around 60℃, removing the risk of harmful pathogens (E. coli, salmonella, listeria, campylobacter) whilst retaining the goodness and nutrients of our fresh, human-grade ingredients.
David's explanation on this page makes things clearer:
Air drying takes things one step further as the ingredients usually start the process fresh rather than ground or pre-cooked. The food is exposed to a current of heated air, gently removing the water through evaporation which is thought to reduce the damage to proteins, vitamins and enzymes compared to conventional cooking methods. Some air dried foods need to be rehydrated by adding water so, while these packs might seem small, the volume of food you get from them is considerably larger.
So it seems that the ingredients are not pre cooked but the heat from the air drying process does cook them because they say on the website that the harmful pathogens are removed.

Dog foods / Re: Air Dried Dog Food
« on: Oct 20, 2020, 17:54 »
I think it will be precooked dehydrated. The only company that I am currently aware of that sells dried raw dog food is Rocketo.
Rocketo website
AADF Rocketo review

Supplements / Re: Probiotics and prebiotics ?
« on: Oct 20, 2020, 14:42 »

Feeding dogs with health problems / Re: Diabetic Puppy
« on: Oct 18, 2020, 16:01 »
Thank you very much for your input Lottie - much appreciated. Personal experience is so useful. Some of those Facebook groups are very helpful. I am glad that you have been able recommend a good one.

I understand that current thinking is that dogs need two meals per day, not one.  This is particularly important in dogs who are deep chested and prone to bloat. The stomach is highly acidic and giving two meals should help to prevent biliousness. Personally, I have fed three smaller meals per day for many years plus a biscuit at bedtime because I feel it is better for their digestion. Also, my dogs are quite greedy so it helps sate appetite.  When kibble is soaked in slightly acidic water you can see how much it expands and I would imagine the stomach becomes distended for a while if a big meal is given all at once. It takes a while to be digested. Also, dry food makes the dog quite thirsty.

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