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Thank you David. I am sure that these two resources will be very helpful.

Cross reference - Allergy thread.

Diet and supplements for itchy dogs.  video - Alison Daniel talks to Holisticvet Ltd.

DinDins Wickedly Raw Superfood for Dogs. I don't have any experience of this supplement. Description:  'Din Dins is a unique blend of superfoods, herbs, probiotics, phytonutrients, chlorophyll, antioxidants, fatty acids and naturally occurring enzymes.'  and is said to be useful for skin conditions.

Introductions / Re: Newbie here
« on: Oct 29, 2020, 17:05 »
Hello and welcome to the forum.

Low protein foods usually come with high carbohydrate. In some dry food recipes the carbs can be 50% or more of the recipe. Dogs can utilise carbs but an excess is not thought to be useful, particularly with skin issues. Also, the fat is usually correspondingly low. Fat is needed for healthy skin. They need good quality, digestible protein, particularly for skin problems when you are aiming for repair of the cells.

I can’t recommend a low protein food because with skin conditions you need to optimise health and the immune system. I am not sure that a dry, low protein food is the right thing in this situation. However, if you wish to pursue this then you can use the Dog Food Directory filters to source something. By low protein I assume you mean 23% and under. You can use the sliders to narrow down the search. Also select ‘no red ingredients’ and ‘clear labelling’.

You will need to choose one that has a protein source which your dog can tolerate. A simple recipe would be best. If you find one that you like the look of, try small bags because some dogs are sensitive to storage mites. You can enhance dry food to provide variety and different nutrients - link.

Hello and welcome to the forum. I have recently compiled a thread on allergic dermatitis which might be helpful - link.  Have a look at that and please let me know if there is anything else you need to discuss. 

I am not familiar with Chow-Chows but am wondering if the skin problems are genetic. Are they common in the breed? There is some mention of a genetic component in this thread on a Chow-Chow forum.

As the vet thinks that the skin problem is food related I can see why they have suggested the hypoallergenic food. It can be used as the base for an elimination diet and as your dog is so young, it is worth considering. 

Long term, I think it might help to avoid high carbohydrate dry food. Alternatives would be fresh cooked food, raw or wet.  If you are inclined to cook for your dog, this can be achieved safely but research is needed because certain additives are required, notably calcium and omega oils. We have information in the home cooking section.

Introductions / Re: Newbie here
« on: Oct 29, 2020, 07:32 »
Hello and welcome to the forum. I hope that the information on here will be useful for you.

I don’t know much about market trends but judging by the number of new pet food products coming onto the market we are perhaps a nation of people who are happy to spend increasing amounts of money on their pets.  The rapid growth of companies selling raw food exemplifies this. It can be quite expensive. However, Coaster’s comments about the economy are pertinent with the ever present threat of a downturn due to Covid-19. 

IMHO there is a gap in the market for more fresh cooked, affordable food products but I am just not sure about ingredients and recipes that are unusual in the pet food market.

Perhaps it would be useful to continue your market research to identify your potential target customers. This is a guess but I would imagine that it would be pet owners who have the disposable income to afford high end food or those who have dogs with health problems. Of the latter, I feel that keeping things simple is best, along with a range of recipes to choose from.

Thank you for letting us know about this. I hadn’t heard of it. The website is here: The Innocent Pet. 

* Posts moved to the dedicated thread for air/freeze dried raw food thread for ease of access.

The protein options of cold pressed food are increasing. Gentle has a version with goat meat and another with fish. Link.

Naturavetal sell rabbit, lamb and salmon versions. Link.

Naturavetal manufactures complete meals using novel proteins. May be useful as a base for an elimination diet.

Dog foods / Re: Air Dried Dog Food
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 20:15 »
Hello Vivann. I am glad that you have had a productive discussion with the owner of Gentle. Beate has a lot of experience with this type of food.  As you mentioned, it can be supplemented with extra protein and this is what I used to do. I chose the lower fat proteins such as white fish, chicken and turkey. You seem to have narrowed it down now to two products so that has to be a good thing. Now you need to choose just one and see how it goes. If you select cold pressed, remember that it must be weighed because it is heavy and the amount will look small in comparison to kibble. It's so easy to overfeed this food at first. Also, if your dog prefers wet food you can easily soak it in tepid water for 10/15 minutes. Take the transition steady - don't rush it.

Coaster mentions mineral clays in cold pressed food and these are usually included in the Markus Muhle products. I understand that they are there to improve the digestive system so might be helpful for your dog.  Good luck and please let us know how you get on as I am interested in the outcome.

Home cooking / Re: We Cook for Dogs
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 19:22 »
The owner of We Cook for Dogs has launched a new website The Canine Nutritionist. This provides recipes, advice and the necessary supplements. I feel that the diet plans for specific diseases such as pancreatitis, allergy amongst others have the potential for being very useful.  This is an exciting innovation and I hope that it will encourage people to safely home cook for their dogs, particularly if they have difficult to manage illnesses.

General discussion / Re: Veterinary Nutrition Specialists
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 19:14 »
The Canine Nutritionist (Gerald Pepin).   Gerald is the owner of We Cook for Dogs and besides providing recipes, sells the necessary supplements needed to create balanced and complete home cooked  dog food.

Dog foods / Re: Air Dried Dog Food
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 10:45 »
Try one thing at a time, giving it a fair trial of several weeks so that you can properly assess the response. Your choice of Vegi Plus Mixer is a good one as it has a simple recipe. Try to aim for at least 60% meat and for the time being start with one source then add another about a week later. My choice would be white fish if the dog is ok with it. Don’t give anything else but the food. Warm it before serving to increase palatability. Consider an oil supplement such as Efavet capsules,  Viacutan capsules and pump dispenser, Yumega.

You might find that her scavenging decreases once she gets onto a good, well balanced diet.

Home cooking / Re: Home-cooked dog food recipes
« on: Oct 22, 2020, 10:30 »
Hello and welcome to the forum William. Looking at that recipe I am surprised that the dogs are able to do a days work. It really is unbalanced and quite poor.

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