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Title: Plenty of meat but little protein? Mislabelled dog food? (a lot of calculations)
Post by: Tob on Aug 04, 2020, 14:00
Hi
I'm trying to solve my problem that I've found trying to find the best dog food. It's about ingredients of some dog foods made by good brands.

For example let's take a food brand which advertises itself as 75% meat and 25% vegetables. It's labelled as follows:
Ingredient list:
40% chicken meat, 30% chicken meat meal, potatoes, 5% chicken fat.

Calculated potatoes = 100 - 40 - 30 - 5 = 25%

Analytical constituents:
35% crude protein, 16% crude fat, 10% crude ash, 2% fibre, moisture 10%

Calculated carbs:
100 - 35 - 16 - 10 - 2 - 10 = 27%


It is a hypothetical dog food, but reflects the problem. For simplicity I omit losses of macronutrients during production process (i.e. extrusion).

The ingredient list is based on mixing bowl principle as we can read in FEDIAF labelling guide.

So in mixing bowl we have:

40% of chicken meat:      20% of protein,  4% fat,  2% ash, 76%  water
30% of chicken meat meal: 65% of protein, 16% fat,  13% ash, 6% water
25% potatoes which has     2% of protein, 16% carbs, 2% fibre, 3% ash, 77% water
5% of fat which is 100% of fat


in a final product with 10% moisture we should have:
51.7% crude protein, 21% crude fat, 0.9% fibre, 8.9% ash, 7.4% carbs (the carbs we can also calculate, it will give us the same value)

BUT on the label we have different values! 27% of carbs, as calculated, come from 25% of potatoes! While it should be around 7.4%. And there is 17% less protein, and 5% less fat

I'm quite sure my calculations are correct because it works with almost 90% of foods of different types, dry, semi moist, home made, BARF...


What's the cause if this difference? I know there are ranges of tolerance of analytical constituents, but this is far off the tolerances. If all off the nutrients would be at upper range of tolerance, it would be about 13% less carbs (=14%) which is still 2 times more than expected.
Maybe the reason is the quality of used meat (for example with with bones) that raises the true value of ash to 20-30%? I doubt. These are well known brands. Maybe the dog food mislabelled?
The analytical constituents reflects ingredients like it was without 30% chicken meat meal and 55% of potatoes...

What do you think?
Title: Re: Plenty of meat but little protein? Mislabelled dog food? (a lot of calculations)
Post by: David on Aug 04, 2020, 17:58
Great question! It's because the potato is added as a dry ingredient. As a general rule, if a dry food ingredient is not specified as 'fresh' it will be dry, usually in the form of a powder. If you run your calculations again but count the potato moisture level as ~5% it should make more sense.
Title: Re: Plenty of meat but little protein? Mislabelled dog food? (a lot of calculations)
Post by: Tob on Aug 05, 2020, 13:07
Thank you for fast reply! Yes, you're right, now it works like expected.
Is this rule true for other veggies in every dry food type? Extruded? Air-dried?
Title: Re: Plenty of meat but little protein? Mislabelled dog food? (a lot of calculations)
Post by: David on Aug 05, 2020, 15:00
Usually, when an ingredient is not specified as being fresh, dry, dehydrated, powdered etc, it will have been added in the same format as the finished product - i.e. dry in dry foods, 'fresh' (that is including its natural water content) in wet foods.

I say usually because different companies label in different ways so nothing is for certain. If in doubt, check with the manufacturer.
Title: Re: Plenty of meat but little protein? Mislabelled dog food? (a lot of calculations)
Post by: David on Aug 10, 2020, 07:13
Actually, one big exception here is grains which will always be added as a dried ingredient in both wet and dry foods.