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Dog foods / Re: Great Danes and Gentle Dog Food
« on: Jan 10, 2016, 15:28 »
Hello everyone,
my pleasure  in sharing with you what is my experience :)
Talking about the smell this is what I was reading around the web and basically every person who switched to cold pressed noticed that..which is really good!
Dottie mentioned the quantity and yes..it took me a while to get used to the very small portion I am feeding Elsa and Odin with. It depends on how much often we go for walks but the quantity vary between 550 and 620gr a day. Elsa is now 16 month old and 53kg, Odin is 24 month old and 65kg (when it was on raw his daily feeding was about 3kg of meat a day). I am now slightly increasing his portions just to double check if he can take it in without having the runnings, but  I would say he will never exceed the 650gr a day (he just need a tiny bit more just to put on maybe 1.5/2 kg more).
Wind is another area where the improvement has been very, but very noticeable.
On my side I feel a lot better also because if you look at the videos about the cold pressed food and the way it is processed by the digestive system, I know that in less than 2 hours it will be completely absorbed; and if you consider that Great Danes are, unfortunately, prone to bloat and torsion of the intestine...well, this is another pros I am very happy with! I can tell that they feel very light in their belly and the breath is improved as well.
They don't drink as much as I would expected too. I was reading of people not too happy about this, with their dogs drinking gallons of water a day. This is not my case and I have to say that is quite the opposite. When Odin came to our house was used to drink a lot..and I mean a lot (to me he was eating way too much but I don't know the rules of raw feeding so I cannot be sure). Since we moved him to cold pressed the intake of water has gone down dramatically. Elsa on AG was used to drink quite a lot and the same for her since we changed her diet.
I take this as a very good sign and should means I am not overfeeding.
I'll keep you posted :)

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Dog foods / Great Danes and Gentle Dog Food
« on: Jan 09, 2016, 12:09 »
Hello everyone,
it's been a while since my last post. Last time I was feeding Elsa with Arden Grange large puppy when I've noticed her coat was turning to brown (she is a Mantle from Harlequin + Black) and more and more "cuts" on her paws. On top of that, randomly, she had the runnings. Our vet didn't want to run any test to exclude allergies or intolerances because she thought it wasn't necessary; but she suggested to think of changing diet / food. So I did.
Raw is not an option for me, so I didn't even consider that and wanted to stay on dry food. Few options on the list but in the end, after speaking with Gentle, was to order the first bag.
I've had a great support (and I'm still having a great support every time I call to place a new order), with precious suggestions to start with and as soon as the food arrived I've started immediately to feed Elsa with it. I remember I was running out of AG and was a bit worried because of the transition time. Elsa had no issue at all and she liked the new food straight away (which was a good starting point). After few weeks came the big surprise: her coat was turning to black again, not just black..super shiny polished black...no runnings and her paws soft and smooth again. I was simply delighted! Since then I of course carried on feeding her with Gentle and another thing I have noticed is that she doesn't smell at all (which I guess is food related as well).
The news is that few weeks ago we have adopted Odin, a 2 y.o Blue Great Dane. He was on raw diet and after talking to the breeder about the chance of changing his diet to dry food, we started to feed him as well with Gentle. Results: I have a very shiny Blue Gentle Giant, who likes his food a lot, is in great health condition and great shape too!. In Odin's case I am starting noticing the same improvement in the smell as well...it had a quite strong one when he arrived but is now progressively loosing it.
So, all in all, I'm very very happy with this food...highly recommended!!  :)
Elsa & Odin

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Introductions / Re: Hello everyone
« on: Mar 11, 2015, 12:57 »
Hello everyone, I thought to post a quick update. It seems Elsa is doing great on Arden Grange  ;D. No more loose stool, but very firm and only twice a day. I have to say that AG isn't my first choice but if Elsa is ok with that I think I will stick with it. It also seems that she is bulking up a bit and putting on weight..I will double check this on Saturday at the vet.
One quick question. One thing I have noticed is that her coat, especially near the back end it seems to be a bit matt and not shiny as the rest of the body..almost discolored I would say. There is no dandruff (there a was a bit when she was on Orijen) and she doesn't smell at all (last bath 2 weeks ago and she is absolutely fine). Could this be the food doing this to her coat?
Many thanks in advance for your suggestions :)

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Supplements / Re: Probiotics and prebiotics ?
« on: Mar 11, 2015, 12:45 »
I have tried the Bionic Biotic from Pooch and Mutt. 1 table spoon at every meal for about 3 weeks. Although I read reviews from people noticing massive improvement almost immediately, I haven't noticed any improvement at all with Elsa (very loose stool). Since I stopped this (about 2 weeks ago) things have dramatically improved with Elsa, very firm stool and no more issues. I don't know if this is just a coincidence or if the product has worked in the long rather than in the short term.

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Hello, I was reading with interest this thread. We have a Great Dane puppy, almost 7 months old. Elsa was on Orijen which was very high in protein; then we changed to Arden Grange which has a lot less protein. We haven't noticed any change, she is the usual character who likes to play a lot and sleep a lot as well. :D
From how you have described your puppy it looks to me is a very adorable and healthy puppy..enjoy :)

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Introductions / Re: Hello everyone
« on: Mar 03, 2015, 21:41 »
Hello everyone and thank you all for your thoughts. I think I will do the test anyway, today her stools have been ok in the morning and in the afternoon, but just few minutes ago a very soft/sloppy yellowish stool appeared again :(
I wonder if it's the carrot and the piece of cucumber she managed to steal while I was making dinner  :o

I really like the idea of the cold pressed food and I have read the thread and visited the Gentle and Healthy Dog websites. I like the idea of feeding Elsa with good food but of course, what could be my first choice, it could not agree with her tummy. I also like the idea because we are thinking of having another Dane in the summer and I have noticed that Gentle, for example, is a food for every size and every life stage.
As Dotty mentioned I will stick with Arden Grange for a bit, let's hope tonight episode was nothing serious and maybe caused by the veggies, and I hope the vet will decide to go for the test (I just want to be sure that Elsa is fine and she is not infested by parasites).

The breeder is a lovely lady and this was the first and as far as I know will be the last litter. Elsa's sister still live with her and she is on Hill's adult large breed, 800gr a day and apparently she is doing well. I hope I will be able to meet up soon so I can have an idea at what stage Elsa really is.
We have had a male Great Dane back in the ages (he left us about 13 years ago), and he was a huge super gentle giant (103cm at the shoulder and 110 kg of pure muscles); he grew up on Purina Pro Plan, eating like a horse and never had any issue....having Elsa now is like having a super petite Great Dane  :)

I will also give a try to the green feeder to see how it goes.

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Introductions / Re: Hello everyone
« on: Mar 02, 2015, 19:48 »
Hello David,
yes, the problem we are facing on and off are soft stool, and am also concerned because she is not putting on that much weight (only 1.5 kg last month).
Now it's been 3 days where the stool is quite firm and formed but as I said before it seems there is no continuity.
Food: Elsa is now on Arden Grange large puppy, it is now a week since we finished the transition with the previous kibble (a very long transition).
The previous one was Orijen where the first 4 month have been fantastic. Then, all of the sudden a bad episode of diarrhoea. We suspended the food, she's been a week on rice and chicken before gradually reintroducing the kibble and everything seemed to be fine. Now, I have no idea if it's my fault but because Elsa was constantly craving for food, I thought that the daily quantity suggested by Orijen (something around 350 grams) wasn't enough..and we started to give her more. Result was another bad episode of diarrhoea with the vet giving us antibiotic. Since then (this was about a month and a half ago) we haven't had other episodes but in general the stool have never been firm or formed. Because of this we also have issues with the anal glands; this doesn't happens every day but often. 
She is a mantel, so far I have to say that her coat is super shiny, not greasy at all and not smelly.
Today seems to be a good day and I've noticed her stool are also a lot more dark brown compared to the almost yellowish stools of the previous weeks.
Am feeding her 3 times a day x 220g each (and this is more than what suggested by Arden Grange)
I forgot to mention that I am also adding one table spoon of probiotics (Bionic Biotic) every feeding time.
I was at the vet with her today and he gave me all the necessary to do the feces test but he also told me to wait about 2 weeks to see if the new food work better for her.
As of today she is 35kg, according to the clinic if she will not put on weight in the next 2 weeks then we will do the test.
Thanks in advance for any thought/hint/idea

p.s: what I have noticed is the Arden grange kibble are quite small and Elsa she just swallow her food in few seconds. We tried to slow her down buying those special bowls but I've noticed she was swallowing even more air and we stopped using it. I don't know if part of the problem is related to the fact that she doesn't chew.

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Introductions / Re: Hello everyone
« on: Mar 01, 2015, 22:59 »
Thanks a lot Dottie, we will do it for sure. We are, at the moment, a bit confused of what to do after changing food brand twice.

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Introductions / Hello everyone
« on: Mar 01, 2015, 21:58 »
We have just joined the forum. We have a great dane, mantel. Elsa is almost 7 months old; we are struggling at the moment with her diet and some tummy plus anal glands issue :(

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