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Dog foods / Re: When to change Large breed to adult food
« on: Feb 06, 2018, 18:20 »
Thanks Dottie, I was aware of the calcium advice which is why I have put him on large breed food rather than "all lifestages". I know some don't agree with that and I have seen information out there where people are suggesting that its a marketing him if by companies but I'd rather be safe than sorry - if that makes sense esp if getting it wrong could cause pain...

As I said, what I'm struggling to find out is what age will he stop growing as I know there are suggestions that feeding a mature dog puppy food could cause problems or because we are only talking months does it matter as long as I change it at 24 months.....?

Dog foods / Re: When to change Large breed to adult food
« on: Feb 06, 2018, 14:52 »
I agree with you but what I am now wondering is when you would class a dog of this size to be fully grown. I have actually googled it and I can't find an answer - I just find statements like "up to two years to mature" which doesn't help. He's our first Standard having always had mini's before so I have nothing to go by

Dog foods / When to change Large breed to adult food
« on: Feb 06, 2018, 08:53 »

We have a 7 month old Standard Poodle and being a male has the potential of hitting 35KG. I've just noticed that one dog food says to switch to adult food at 15 months for dogs up to 35KG whereas most other brands say their large breed dog food is up to 24 months but of course that covers giant breeds as well.....

So now I'm wondering when it would be best to switch him - 15 months, 18 months or wait until he is 24 months. What do people think?

Introductions / Re: Hello and advice needed
« on: Feb 06, 2018, 08:14 »
It certainly seems that the BH's lower protein does suit her. Applaws puppy food has a huge 38% and most of the Millies ones are 28%+. It's a shame because when we were looking at the Millies I realised that once he was able to move off puppy food we could have them on the same food which would have been good  - oh well.

We have decided to change him to BH's once we have finished the stock of Applaws we have to see if that makes his poo less attractive to her and in the mean time we'll try and train her out of it and be as vigilante as possible.

I will let you know how we get on - I will mention it to the vet again and see if he agrees. He didn't seem to concerned before as she is a healthy dog but I will check.

Any other ideas/advice them please let me know  :) 

Introductions / Re: Hello and advice needed
« on: Feb 05, 2018, 19:20 »
We do try but she got a mouthful earlier as I was dealing with the little one and did not get there quick enough. Yet yesterday I know we got them all lol

Do you think it would be worth changing him onto the BHs as well - my husband has just asked if the richness of the Applaws is coming out in his poo making it more attractive to her. He's just pointed out that she does not eat her own poo - what do you think?

Introductions / Re: Hello and advice needed
« on: Feb 05, 2018, 17:48 »
We stopped feeding her treats when it started and only use kibble out of her measured daily amount - I really do wish that was the problem lol

I wonder if she is getting extra protein from the other dogs poo - is this possible. I would be happy to change his food but will need to finish the stock of it we have (saw a fantastic deal and brought a 6 months supply!!)

With the plants we have checked that we don't have any toxic ones but it's really only the roses she goes for

Introductions / Hello and advice needed
« on: Feb 05, 2018, 11:34 »
Hello everyone,

I'm currently scratching my head at one of our dogs. We have a Cavapoo who has just turned 1 and a 7 month old standard poodle - it's the Cavapoo who we're having problems with.

When we had her we chose Barking Heads as a decent food and moved her onto it (her breeder had been feeding her on a mixture of "whatever Tesco had on offer") We noticed that she was not eating that much and was very picky with it so after trying everything to get her to eat (hot water to soften it, only leaving it down for 5 mins etc) over the course of a couple of months we came to the conclusion that she simply did not like it!

We decided to put her on Applaws - and that was when our problems really started because although she wolfed it down it really loosened her poos. I contacted Applaws for advice and to make sure we weren't over feeding her and they advised to leave her on it for a month as her body needed to get used to the rich food. so we did and it didn't really improve. She did stop trying to eat my rose bushes however but we had the other dog and she would eat his poo (he's on Applaws large puppy food).

I mentioned it to the vet and he said to test if it was food related then a simple test would be to put her on chicken and rice for a few days. If it stopped then we needed to work out what was in the food causing it - if it didn't then they would need to run tests.

Oh I use advocate every months on both dogs so unlikely to be worms.

The chicken and rice worked so now I needed to figure out what her trigger was (at this point our 4 year old could not play on the lawn as it would be unsafe for him :( ) I sat with both foods ingredients and the only difference I could see at the time was that Applaws contained white potato which the BH's didn't so thought that could be the problem.

I had discovered Millies and really liked what I was seeing in regards to their foods plus the price so I contacted them for advice on which recipes to try. We tried a potato free one and it did not really help so they suggested poultry could be a problem so we tried a different one and that didn't help. Can I clarify that each time we changed the food over the course of a week and we left her on it for several weeks.

We ended up trying several of their recipes and were getting no where. I emailed them again (they are so helpful) and a different lady picked it up and pointed out about the protein levels as Applaws and the Millies ones we had been trying all had at least 30% and she may not stomach it esp since she is a small dog. So we tried one more Millies recipe which had 28% protein in it which drastically improved her poos but we were still getting loose ones.

I then decided to put her back on BH's as we didn't have this problem then and so over Christmas we moved her back onto the puppy food - interestingly she eats it fine now - maybe due to having another dog in the house IDK. Her Poo's are the best they have been but we are still getting runny ones roughly once a day.

I really want to figure out why we are still getting these runny poos and I think there are a possible number of factors as she does eat the other dogs poo still - as I said he is on the Applaws large puppy food which that could cause it not just because she is eating poo but could it be the fact he is on Applaws that causes a problem. We do try and follow him around and clean up before she can get it but it's not always possible as we not only do we have a young child but if it's dark (he's a black dog) and he goes down the garden I can't always see what he's doing LOL

The other thing that may or may not be related is the roses because now she is back on BH's she has gone back to trying to eat them - and I mean the branches as there's no flowers at the moment which as I said when she was on the Applaws and Millies she did not really touch them. Someone has suggested is this a vitamin thing - could it be. Some of her runny poos do clearly have plant matter in them.

I'm sure you can all see I am really confused as to what to do with this dog. Yes I know I need to take her to the vets but I wanted to see if anyone here can solve the mystery or if it turns out only something a vet can solve at least give me a good idea so I can prevent needless (and possibly expensive) tests being done. Please note that she has never been unwell through all of this - she is full of energy. Oh and now she has turned one we have moved her onto the adult BH's (no change)

What do you guys think and how can I solve this because it's not fair on her or us  :(

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