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Had quite a few customers in recently where the vet has recommended 'Hydrolysed dog food' - now they don't recommend a particular food but have told the people to go and look for said type of food. Now the only foods I can see that contain hydrolysed proteins are the foods that are, ahem, heavily promoted by vets. Looking at the ingredients of these foods, the hydrolysed component is often way down the list of other pretty dubious ingredients - on one, the first three ingredients are wheat, maize protein, animal fat and the hydrolysed component is 10th. I understand the concept of hydrolysed dog food but if the component is only a small part of an otherwise not very good (my opinion) dog food, then is it effective? Any suggestions or insights welcome!

General discussion / Different Country, different food?
« on: Nov 15, 2016, 15:23 »
Curiosity on labelling - was messing around with something and noticed ambiguity in labelling - bag of Royal Canin Mini has ingredients listed for 24 countries including EU, Australia, South Africa Korea Russia etc but in the English list - for GB/IRL/RSA/AUS the analytical content is labelled differently for RSA and shows different numbers.
So decided to look up on t'internet -  the only web site mentioned on the pack is
Royal Canin Mini Adult ingredients
Chicken meal, brewers rice, brown rice, corn, corn gluten meal, chicken fat, natural flavors, wheat gluten, dried beet pulp, vegetable oil, brewers dried yeast, fish oil, potassium chloride, calcium carbonate, salt, fructooligosaccharides, sodium tripolyphosphate, DL-methionine, choline chloride, L-lysine, magnesium oxide, vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), biotin, D-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin A acetate, niacin supplement, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], taurine, trace minerals (zinc oxide, zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, manganese proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), L-carnitine, rosemary extract, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols and citric acid.

But if you go on the website the ingredients are list like this
COMPOSITION: dehydrated poultry protein, maize, maize flour, animal fats, maize gluten, vegetable protein isolate*, wheat, hydrolysed animal proteins, rice, beet pulp, minerals, fish oil, yeasts, soya oil, fructo-oligo-saccharides.
ADDITIVES (per kg): Nutritional additives: Vitamin A: 22500 IU, Vitamin D3: 1000 IU, E1 (Iron): 42 mg, E2 (Iodine): 4.2 mg, E4 (Copper): 13 mg, E5 (Manganese): 55 mg, E6 (Zinc): 164 mg, E8 (Selenium): 0.11 mg, L-carnitine: 50 mg - Preservatives - Antioxidants.
ANALYTICAL CONSTITUENTS: Protein: 27% - Fat content: 16% - Crude ash: 5.6% - Crude fiber: 1.3% - Per kg: pentasodium triphosphate: 3.5 g - EPA and DHA: 2.5 g.

to me that's two totally different foods - only seeing this as a problem because the writing on the packaging is tiny and the logical thing to find bigger type face would be to visit the website listed on the packet. Also why such a difference in the US food and the other 24 countries?  - yikes just looked into it further - the US one is double the price of UK per kilo (if my maths and conversion is right)
Does anyone know of any other foods that differ so much between countries?

Getting a puppy / Selling puppies in pet shops
« on: Oct 16, 2014, 13:50 »
There has been a campaign by Pup Aid for all mothers of puppies to be seen before a new pup is bought, They got together a petition for questions to be asked in Parliament and it duly did a couple of months back - all well and good, something I totally support. Since then this campaign has turned into banning the sale of puppies in pet shops which has been with resounding puzzlement by the majority of the pet trade as it seems no one knows where there are actually puppies still being sold in pet shops. It is correct that to sell puppies you do need a pet shop license but the premises can be a kennels or a farm. Knowing the way that, in some areas, checking these licenses is lax to say the least, this is how the puppy farmers are beating the system.

So, cut a long story short - Does anyone out there know of an actual pet shop with puppies for sale on the premises? I don't mean boarding kennels with a shop attached, but actual 'high street' pet shops. Ive asked around and in the North West there only seems to be Dogs 4 You in Manchester which is a big place that sells puppies, I would appreciate any news or info - IM me if you don't want to post it here.
PS I am not a nutter and wont go firebombing places!

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