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When doing the home cooked meal, I've now upped the protein to 50% and 25% veg and 25% carbs.  I got the 1/3 x 1/3 x 1/3 ratio from NM but haven't seen the recommended 50 x 25 x 25.  Good job they were getting more Lupo than home cooked!

I'm already a Coconut oil nut!  I use it for all my cooking and also for the dogs cooking.  I have been giving sardines in tomato sauce as they are cheap and did well to disguise the antibiotic tablets which Luca has been on for several weeks but just finished.  Sounds a good idea to give them some sardines every week.  I eat smoked mackerel a lot and I always give the skins to the dogs - not sure if there is any oils left in that though?   Funny they always sit next to me when I eat mackerel!! I think the salmon oil sounds easy enough to add as well.  I'll get some of that and look into the green lipped mussels.

Yes, I could just stick to Lupo, but I would like to give them a bit of variety and make food enjoyable rather than a necessity (which is what it became sometimes with kibble). 

Luca GSD is now on three legs so we need to keep weight down, although he was never fat and still very active and not prone to weight gain, and Pippin JR has just been spayed last week but again very active and I am conscious of weight gain.  I have just fed them this afternoon with cooked veg with raw chicken mince and brown rice and they loved it.  I just want to make sure they are getting the nutrients they need.  I think I will increase the protein on the next batch.  I don't suppose there is any harm in feeding a mix of everything as long as they enjoy it and are getting all the necessary nutrients?

I think perhaps either supplements or a food with added supplements might be good for Luca to support his joints with the additional strain they are getting.  I haven't worked that one out yet.

PS Dottie, congrats on being a junior!

Sorry, I better make it clear (I don't want to upset any raw enthusiasts) but the bacterial infection was after surgery - nothing to do with raw food - but the vet thought I better cook it to be on the safe side as he was already fighting a bacterial infection! 

Yes, I am undecided.  They are enjoying their food at the moment.  I am happy with the Lupo as I they love it and I know it is complete so getting everything they need.  I just need to make sure the raw or home cooked meals are just as nutricious.


Thanks Dottie, I did wonder whether to go to the butchers but thought it might be too much fat.  I'll read the link you sent.

Thanks George.  This is what Natures menu say: "Home made -Your decision, its simply meat.  The Bone content is far too minced/ground down to be an issue when cooked.  We do recommend our meats are used with a raw diet"

I cooked it when my GSD had surgery and had a bacterial infection, and the vet thought it best cooked, and I found the dogs seem to prefer it.  I have to cook the veg and rice but I could mix this with the raw meat?  I've just recently started so am open to recommendations and suggestions.  I also feed Lupo Natural Swiss chicken so they get a complete meal every day as well as my home cooked recipes.  Do you think the quantities are wrong if they are cooked?

Gill, do you mean Natures Menu recommend those quantities for raw feeding, or do they actually suggest that you can cook their Free Flow Mince?

I suppose the beef and tripe varieties could be cooked before feeding but all the others contain bone and could be very dangerous to feed cooked - the tiny bits of bone will become brittle and some will have sharp edges, it could easily result in a punctured intestine. Nutriment & Natural Instinct warn that their raw meals should never be cooked for that reason, and I have just checked, Natures Menu minces do contain bone.

Hi everyone, just checking my quantities and recipies for home cooked food.  Natures Menu recommend one third mince, one third fruit/veg and one third low starch grain (brown rice oats or potato) and 2-3% of bodyweight per day.

Would sweet potato be a veg or would it be low starch grain?

Also, is 33% protein enough as some of the home cooked and raw menus are 60% protein and Natures Menu complete meals are 45% protein?
Many thanks

Having recently started feeding a mixture of Lupo Natural Swiss Chicken and home cooked food with Natures Menu Mince and vegetables, my dogs are eating approximately one third of the volume they used to eat with a commercial kibble (I have worked out the daily requirements for the weight of the dogs and am feeding correct amounts).  They are much keener to be fed  as they run off to the utility room for their breakfast as soon as I come downstairs in the morning, and at 4pm they are doing the same.  I am concerned they are hungry as the volume is much less and wondering whether to add additional fibre to fill them up??

Introductions / Hello from Gill and Luca and Pippin
« on: Sep 16, 2014, 14:30 »
Hi everyone,  I have a German Shepherd called Luca and a Jack Russel called Pippin.  I have been considering changing from commercial kibble for some time, but when Luca recently broke a leg, which ended up being amputated four weeks ago, I decided he not only needed good nutrition but a feed without additives to try and reduce his anxious behaviour  (which was the cause of his original accident), and the need to keep weight down now he has three legs .   Pippin has always been a scratcher and licker, so hope it will help any possible irritation.   I have been feeding Natures Menu Raw (but gently cooked to be on the safe side following his surgery) and Lupo Natural Swiss Chicken.  I like the ethics of both companies and the dogs love their new food but I will keep researching and reading the comments on this site as it is only the beginning our our 'natural' journey.

General discussion / Dental Plaque
« on: Sep 16, 2014, 14:17 »
Having recently changed from kibble to a combination of Natures Menu (Raw) and Lupo Natural Swiss Chicken (compressed) do I need to give my GSD and JR anything to clean plaque off teeth?  Natures Menu recommend raw bones for teeth cleaning, but I gave my GSD one of their ducks necks and it was gone in about 30 seconds (not much chewing went on!) .  The Lupo is not crispy like kibble so I guess it may not clean plaque (and there are many differing opinions of whether kibble actually cleans plaque or not).
Anyone have any thoughts?

PS they love both meals - can't get enough of it and I use the Lupo for training treats as well.

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