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General discussion / Re: Post operation feeding for dog
« on: Sep 19, 2019, 18:23 »
Wishing her a speedy recovery-it's fantastic that she's eating.

General discussion / Re: Post operation feeding for dog
« on: Sep 15, 2019, 18:35 »
Another suggestion for cooked fresh food would be Different Dog or Butternut Box. With Butternut you need to sign up for a subscription (though you can get referral discounts for your first box) but with Different Dog you can just buy what you need.
Hope your dog's op goes well.

Home cooking / Re: Fresh food feeding
« on: Sep 06, 2019, 10:44 »
Both Butternut Box and Different Dog are premade fresh, cooked diets which are nutrionally complete even for young dogs. They are expensive but at least you are assured your dog is getting the correct nutrients. Different Dog offer five protein sources in different recipes (beef, lamb, chicken, turkey and one recipe of white fish and salmon). Butternut Box currently offer beef, lamb, chicken and turkey with fish and pork to follow at some point (fish soon, pork not til next year apparently) though they don't vary the recipes like Different Dog do.

Dog foods / Gentle Cold Pressed Goat variety
« on: Aug 02, 2019, 07:06 »
Have just seen that Gentle are launching a new variety containing goat Meat.

Naturavetal from Germany one of the original Cold Pressed manufactures has launched in the UK.

100% Natural without any additives, preservatives, colourants or bulking ingredients. Their range also includes, wet food, meat pots, supplements for BARF plus health and hygiene. 
All but two items in the range are grain free.

May I ask, are you in some way affiliated to Naturavetal?

General discussion / Re: NEW RATING ALGORITHM... finally!
« on: Jun 12, 2019, 13:07 »
Thanks for the information, David, I really appreciate you looking into this and I'm glad to see the improvement in Tribal's rating.

Dog foods / Re: Butternut Box
« on: Jun 05, 2019, 15:57 »
Just thought it may be helpful to let you know that Butternut Box are currently not taking new customer orders until July.
The reason for this is due to difficulties they are experiencing with stock levels-at the moment they are unable to provide all of the ordered recipes to meet the demands of current customers so boxes have recently seen some substitutions.

 This blog post explains more:-

This does also mean that there is no sign of the long-awaited fish and pork recipes as yet. They have said they plan to reassess the situation in July when they hope to have stock levels back to where they should be.

They have also confirmed that fish will be the first of the two new recipes to be released.

General discussion / Re: NEW RATING ALGORITHM... finally!
« on: Jun 03, 2019, 08:38 »
Thanks very much, David, I'll look forward to hearing what Tribal have to say on this.

General discussion / Re: NEW RATING ALGORITHM... finally!
« on: Jun 01, 2019, 12:19 »
I think it looks great but I'm a bit confused!

I feed my dog Tribal TLC alongside Butternut Box. Tribal was previously rated at 4.5 (90%) but has dropped significantly to 73%.

I do realise from what David has said that some foods have had their ratings dropped but I'm puzzled by this when other cold pressed foods that use meat meal rather than fresh meat as Tribal does are scoring so highly in comparison (20% higher in some cases).

Also, having a browse through the product pages I've come across, as an example, Arden Grange Prestige which is extruded, has a red ingredient (maize) and a low meat content according to the symbols.

Also Natural Dog Food Company Turkey Light which is extruded, has rice as its main ingredient and low meat content.

Yet both rate exactly the same as Tribal under the new rating algorithm.

Paul O'Grady's Hypoallergenic actually rates higher at 75%, yet is extruded, has low meat content and rice as its first ingredient.

I appreciate that David does an amazing job and this must have been a huge undertaking so I don't wish to sound critical, I am just genuinely puzzled and unsure if I'm missing something with these ratings?

Introductions / Re: Grain Free Concerns
« on: May 04, 2019, 16:56 »
You may find this thread useful:-

My understanding is that there is still a limited amount known about the validity of linking a grain free diet with DCM but it is thought to be possibly connected to too little taurine in the diet.

I feed my dog TLC alongside Butternut Box. TLC contains no legumes but does contain sweet potato-which is preferable to white potato. Also it is cooked at below 95c-in the thread posted above there was an explanation I got from Butternut Box about the Maillard cooking reaction which is thought to affect taurine levels in foods cooked at over 140c -which Tribal is not.

My thought would be that if Tribal is suiting your dog, stick with it but you could also add a taurine containing food (such as sardines) as a topper once a week. TLC is a good food containing fresh meat and cooked at low temperatures, my dog loves it too so I have continued to feed it to her.

Dog treats / Re: Healthy dental chews?
« on: Apr 17, 2019, 16:40 »
My dog likes the Lily's Kitchen Woofbrushes, they are a similar consistency to Dentastix but healthier ingredients. They are pricey though and I still think antler bars are probably better for the teeth. Fish skins can also be good for them to chew on.

Dog foods / Re: Butternut Box
« on: Apr 16, 2019, 19:35 »
I asked Butternut Box for a little more clarity regarding the plastic pouches and here is their response:

'It's absolutely safe to cook and freeze our food in the pouches. We use a multilayer film which is designed especially for cooking human foods and is completely BPA (bisphenol A) free. It's the same type of film that you might find on fresh or cooked meats, cheese, fish, ready meals, pasta and bakery products.

The film has been tested and validated and it fully complies with EU regulations for materials intended to come into contact with foods.'

Dog foods / Re: Butternut Box
« on: Apr 15, 2019, 10:18 »
As a BB customer my dog was lucky enough to trial the new pork and fish recipes back in December and I can confirm that the fish was not tuna but also not salmon-it was white fish and my understanding is that they will use different varieties of white fish in the recipes depending upon what is more readily available throughout the seasons.

Pork is due to be released at he same time I believe but so far there is still no date-Butternut keep saying soon.

I am also attaching the founders' response to the ASA ruling.

As for the food being cooked in the pouches you may wish to contact Butternut direct about this. They are usually very helpful and informative in resolving any queries. Personally I would prefer if it wasn't cooked in the pouch but I also take into account the size of the operation they're running and that this is the most practical method. As I understand it their food is cooked at low temperatures and many human foods are also cooked in this way-microwave meals are often designed to be reheated in plastic trays at much higher temperatures.

General dog chat / Re: Insurance!!
« on: Feb 26, 2019, 15:16 »
My dog is insured with Pet Plan though I know they are regarded as expensive. I have made two small claims and had no issues.
I have heard good things about Bought By Many but have no personal experience of them.
One thing to bear in mind when changing to a new insurer is that existing conditions will be excluded.

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