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Original
Regional Red
Six Fish
Tundra
Orijen Adult
Type of food
Complete dry extruded
Dog types
Pet dogs
Breed sizes
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Suitable for toy breed dogs Adult weight 1-4kg. e.g. Chihuahua, Pomeranian, Yorkshire Terrier
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Suitable for small breed dogs Adult weight 4-10kg. e.g. Beagle, Dachshund, Jack Russell
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Suitable for medium breed dogs Adult weight 10-25kg. e.g. Border Collie, Staffie, Springer, Vizsla
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Suitable for large breed dogs Adult weight 25-45kg. e.g. Boxer, Labrador, Greyhound
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Suitable for giant breed dogs Adult weight 45kg+ e.g. Bernese, Great Dane, Mastiff
Dog ages
From weaning to old age
Pack sizes
2kg & 11.4kg bags
RRP
11.4kg bags = £87.99
AADF rating
85%
At a glance
Natural: Free from added artificial preservatives, antioxidants, colourings, flavourings or other controversial synthetic ingredientsHigh meat content: Contains at least 30% meat ingredients (on a dry matter basis)Hypoallergenic: Free from wheat, maize, dairy products, soya products and artificial additivesClearly labelled: Each ingredient is clearly and individually stated and there is at least a reasonable indication of the percentages of the main ingredientsCertified nutritionally complete: This food complies fully with the complete food nutrient tolerances as recommended by FEDIAF and/or AAFCO
" Help your dog thrive with the power of protein-rich recipes that provide peak nourishment. Dogs are ancestral carnivores, so they need a Biologically Appropriate diet rich and varied in whole animal ingredients. ORIJEN Original diet is packed with 85%* quality animal ingredients like fresh or raw free-run** chicken and turkey, and wild-caught or sustainably farmed fish. Packed with wholeprey animal ingredients like organs and bone, ORIJEN food is made with the most nutrient-dense, succulent parts of the prey to deliver the nutrition dogs need. The result is a diet for your canine companion that is beyond comparison.
85%* quality poultry and fish ingredients, providing a strong source of essential protein, vitamins, and minerals.
Our authentic wholeprey diet features the most succulent parts of the prey like poultry or fish, organs and bone to mimic what your dog's ancestors consumed in the wild.
Freeze-dried coated for a burst of raw flavour your dog instinctively craves.
Proudly crafted in Canada with the world's best ingredients. "
UK Regional Red recipe has changed, bought 2 bags at the same time in early December. The "original" recipe has bison and pilchards but these are removed in the new recipe, replaced with more beef liver and salmon. There are other small changes too.
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Symbiotic Canine Beh• 2 months ago
For everyone in the UK concerned about recipe changes to this brand, it’s only the US food that’s been affected. If you visit Orijens US website and their UK one, the ingredients lists are different to one another hence why on AADF US residents may think this data is outdated, but for the UK it’s not. I’m under the impression the UK recipe will be staying the same
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Bruised often• 5 months ago
We used to give Eden a good year ago to our Mali and to be honest it gave him bad stools and wasn’t for him. We changed to Orijen and since his stools are always firm and he has put on good lean muscle n great shiny coat. Orijen has added more vitamins it would seem though the food we currently get is still produced in Alberta, Canada.
Our Mali walk around 15-20km a day everyday, plus is always out and about with us throughout the day, he is 32kg and we are giving him 480-500g a day. I can see where there is some concern for the company being bought by mars but looking at their site and fb they state they haven’t changed their recipes and are staying as a separate entity. He gets his training treats as part of his daily ration and we are careful with any other additional treats. A lot of loose stools are due to over feeding imho. He also gets probiotic tablets each day as a supplement.
They would have to state if its made elsewhere and for the moment we will keep an eye on things, there’s not many other dry food that can beat it. We consider raw but this may be too expensive for us.
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Mrs Cooper • 6 months ago
I am concerned that Orijen has been bought by Mars and is opening a production site in CHINA.
I AM NOW LOOKING FOR A NEW FOOD for my Italian Greyhound who loves this food, but I nolonger trust it to continue buying it.
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Calvin Shia• 7 months ago
The ingredients are not the same anymore so watch out when you are buying the next bag. They downgraded the food with preservatives and bunch of additives since Mars bought them over. Almost made the switch until I noticed the uncanny ingredient list and found out about the acquisition.
AADF please also update your analysis, I doubt if they are worthy of this rating now.
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Diana Salygaitė• 9 months ago
Have 2x sensitive english bull terriers I been feeding this for some time, but after design change -dogs refuses to eat. Orijen now owned by new people, something changed in the ingridients. Already found alternative for my sensitive dogs -carnilove salmon, which also have good rating.
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ruth astill• 10 months ago
Came to look for info Ted has been very happy with this for 8(ish) years until the new bag. Now turning away and leaving it. Will be changing brands for something more locally available.
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Will Vale-Onslow• 10 months ago
I’ve had the same experience as many others recently. I used to rave about this and advocated for friends and family to use it too. Suddenly the bag design changed and my dog went off it. I’ve subsequently chanted brands and he got his appetite back, I tried it again to see if it was a bad batch, or whether my dog was getting fickle and he still doesn’t like it.
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Kat Jordan• 11 months ago
Made the change to Orijen just over a year ago, resolved a lot of issues for us. The dogs' bowel movements were regular and of good consistency, they slept through the night better, and they refused to eat anything OTHER than Orijen. Bought our last bag in February (£90 a bag, £75 when we changed over to it!!) and witnessed a noticeable change in their poops, that became bloody and mucus-y - which suggests an inclusion of an ingredient they're intolerant to. They also became very reluctant to eat the food, sometimes going a couple of days turning their noses up at it. We swapped to Eden, which sadly has a lower nutritional rating, but resolved their bowel issues almost instantly. Gutted Orijen sold out, I would've never swapped from them if the quality hadn't dipped.
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Christopher Mitchell• one year ago
While I agree there is something different about the product, as my dog is less keen, it is my understanding we still have the Canadian version of the food in the UK and not the Kentucky manufactured kibble. I bought a 2kg bag from Pets at Home and it says made in Alberta Canada.
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Sabine Amelia• one year ago
This used to be the only dog food that wouldn’t irritate our bully mix pup and it made her coat shiny and smell free - all until after purchasing a fresh bag that cost almost £90 for 11kg a few months ago- only to find out it’s giving her diarrhoea and all sorts of issues and us having to take her off it. Waste of money and never bought again.
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Sabine Amelia• 11 months ago
Yep! Gave both our Lab mix and our Westie bloody/mucusy diarrhoea after having no issues on it for over a year.
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Sadiesmum• one year ago
My dog has been eating this for 2 yrs but no longer likes it. The formula has changed - no salmon now and more additives. The price is rocketed as well so now looking for alternatives. Disappointed that they have sold out to Mars and am
sure the quality will suffer. Now available at Pets at Home presumably because of the Mars link. Shame it was such a good food, which my oh thrived on but not any more.
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Angela Sharp
Sadiesmum• one year ago
I am still feeding this as my dog is still eating it but it now comes from their Kentucky plant not Canada. There are changes to the ingredient list and I guess more will come at which point I will stop buying.
Currently I am also trialing N&D food in various varieties. It is a quality food made with fresh meat with impressive methods. The ingredients are traceable and it's worth reading up on the company Farmina. I am impressed and think this is the food I will transfer to.
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Angela Sharp• 10 months ago
Can I ask what is N&D ?
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Kat Jordan
Sadiesmum• 11 months ago
Came on here specifically to find out if other people were having the same issues as us. Turns out they are! Dogs won't eat it, and when they do it gives them bad poops.
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Luka for President• one year ago
I’ve noticed (presumably since the Mars takeover) that you can now buy Orijen from Pets at Home-slightly cheaper too.
Will have to see whether the quality drops off,over time.
Something has changed. Our dog has loved this stuff for the past 2 years. We got a new bag last month (different style packaging) and she either won’t go near it, or very hesitantly eats but leaves a large amount. Very unusual. The couple of times we have convinced her to have some she’s vomited it back up within 20 mins. An almost whole 11kg bag is going to be thrown away and we’ll have to find a new brand. Really disappointed that not only have they change something but then put the prices up as well… I wish I had kept the bag packaging before emptying it into her food storage container so I could get the batch number and complain direct. Orijen reverse whatever changes you’ve made to the recipe!!!
The food has changed and made in Kentucky plant not Canada. I am trying out N&D dog food which is made with fresh meat from farms, ingredients traceable. Various varieties and impressive. Made by Farmina, definitely worth looking at their company info and ingredients list.
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Vdouglas13• one year ago
Half way down new 11kg bag and dogs stools are getting sloppy and stinky wind.... I'm thinking this food is not suiting him at all.... My previous pup loved it and never had any issues.... Will be moving onto raw I think to try him on that.... The cost is so much less too.... The price of orijen has rocketed!
Our nine year old boxer has been on orijen for the past five years and has thrived on it but in the last four weeks the price has increased by four pounds taking the cost for 11kg to £93.99. In the last year it has increased by at least £12. As a retired couple watching the pennies we cannot sustain these price increases so sadly we may well be forced to change to a different brand.
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Bcam15• one year ago
Has this food been changed? We have been feeding our 6 yr old Labrador this food since a puppy. She’s always been very happy to eat it. We have, a few days ago, opened a new bag - with new design packaging - and she is absolutely refusing to touch it - she backs away and turns her head away. She’s eating all the other food we’re giving her and she’s her normal happy, well self and, clearly, hungry. She refused it again all day today but, when we gave her a handful of Orijen we found in the previous bag, with the old style packaging, she happily ate it. The food also looks slightly different. It’s shiny and darker brown in colour. Has anyone else had the same experience please (U.K.)?
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Bcam15• one year ago
interested in this too as my dog has started eating his grazing instead of wolfing it down... new bag here too.
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Dusty Hammond
Vdouglas13• one year ago
If you look at the ingredient list on the new bags of Orijen Original, the ingredient list has changed slightly. Also they're adding more vitamins and minerals whereas they use to only add chelated Zinc (which suggested all the nutrients were coming from the ingredients?). The cals/100gms has also dropped by a negligible amount of about 7 and neither Glucosamine or Chondroitin sulphate amounts are listed.
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Sophie Williams• one year ago
Hi...would like to try this for my 6 month Dachsund. Where can i buy it ?
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Sophie Williams• one year ago
Hi, Champion Pet Foods ideally like to stock smaller businesses so you won't find them in pets at home or pets corner for instance. However places like Penparc Pet Centre and Just for pets will sell it and some other smaller pet shops :)
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Sabine Amelia• 2 years ago
We have a staffy puppy who absolutely thrives on this food. She was on the puppy one originally once we weaned her off the breeders kibble. Her digestion improved so much and she stopped having loose stools, her coat was the softest she's ever had and she also didn't have that 'dog' smell about her anymore. We tried a different, really good but less pricey food after that and it wasn't the same. She is now back on this Original food and loves it. We use it for training too and she never gets sick of it. Her coat is shiny and soft again, her digestion and stools are finally back on track and so is our back garden. It's definitely worth the price if it agrees with your dog, we won't be switching again.
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Helen Ward• 2 years ago
My dog is really healthy on this food despite a dodgy start. He had Parvo when we bought him home and often had gastric issues early on. If he eats this food and nothing much else he's happy and healthy and no problem. He's had Orijen since he was a few months old first the puppy version (breeder recommended Purina Beta which I didn't even bother finishing the bag he wasn't keen on it and it was rubbish). He had special RC food until he was better and then I changed him to orijen. He's had some issues here and there but I can put these down to eating and drinking stuff that's not food out on walks like cattle poo any river water. He's now on orijen Tundra or regional red which he likes best and he's completely grown out of his issues (and now he's been trained to leave stuff) and we only go to the vets for annual jabs and a checkup. Our vets sell RC but told me never to change from this food as he wouldn't get anything better. Happy and healthy with lovely soft fur (Standard Labradoodle).
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Hazy Summer• 2 years ago
Is the protein not too high in this?
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Hazy Summer• one year ago
i'm interested in the same thing
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christosm0510 .• 4 years ago
My dog gets diarrhea when eating this...
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christosm0510 .• 2 years ago
I get diarrhoea reading all this.
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Sarah Jane Martins• 4 years ago
Has anyone seen the current lawsuit filed against Orijen and Acana about toxins (heavy metals) in some of varieties of food which is still under investigation in the USA. If you want to find out more have a read on Petful.com. I don’t what to think as I was just about to switch to this food. But as a vet tech I am cautious the too much protein can cause kidney problems in some dogs. And although it can take years to show any outwards signs the damage can’t be reversed.
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Sarah Jane Martins• 3 years ago
Worth pointing out that this lawsuit was unsuccesful.
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Valerie jones• 5 years ago
I've been feeding Orijen Whole Prey to all my Border collies that compete in dog sports for several years now, but recently their poo has been very very big, soft, and sometimes sloppy, even a bit of colitis this morning, whereas before they were small, firm and never soft.I have messaged the company to enquire if they have changed any of the ingredients or changed the percentage of some of the ingredients which might cause that. My dogs do not eat anything else. Treats are kibble taken from their daily ration, and their eating drinking habits haven't changed.
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Fokel de Vries• 5 years ago
Have been feeding Orijen to my 3 whippets for at least 6 years now and have never looked for any other brand. Shiny coats, healthy bodies and teeth and most important they love it. Used to buy Hill Science from the vets untill I saw a programme on BBC years ago about dog food. I investigated for weeks to find the best dog food and came across Orijen. I truly believe this is the best dry dog food you can buy for your dog. My beautiful, healthy and happy whippets are a testimonie to the quality of Orijen.
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Gemma Leach• 6 years ago
Currently feeding AATU Duck, considering changing to Orijen as can get 13.5kg bag for just under £50, whereas currently paying £50-£60 for a 10kg bag of AATU Duck. Anyone else changed from AATU to Orijen? Thoughts please...
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Gemma Leach• 6 years ago
Are you sure that's correct as Orijen don't make a 13.5kg bag.
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Jeremy Dearman• 6 years ago
I think they used to make a 13.5kg bag, but I wonder whether supplier has a few 13.5kg bags left, I haven’t actually ordered so may not actually have in stock.
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Gemma Leach• 5 years ago
I changed from aatu to Eden which is like orijen but cheaper.i might try missie on orijen for a change to see how she likes it.xx
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Sarah Jones• 2 years ago
I feed my dog aatu, was it worth the swap?
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Gemma Leach• 2 years ago
I feed aatu? How was the change? I don’t know if I should change my boys food
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Jacqui Campuzano• 6 years ago
Following the guidelines and comments on this site I put my two year old boxer cross with skin sensitivity on this food to see if she thrived on it as I was not convinced my previous favourite brand was right for her as an individual. Whilst she lives the food, has good stools and has had no adverse effects in health unfortunately I don't feel I can keep her on it as her begging and scavenging has increased 200% she was never a good orientated dog but is now a nuisance and is stealing things off the counter. I can only put it down to the smaller volumes required and the lack of satiety in that. I'm sure I read a previous comment of someone else experiencing this also. I don't want to increase the volume and essentially over feed her in terms of nutrition as she is perfect weight and highly active. Anyone else have experience of this and have any advice or similar alternative suggestions? Thanks x
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Jacqui Campuzano• 5 years ago
Even though you should weigh the food you also need to adjust if they are still hungry.if they get loose stools then it's too much.active dogs need more and the feeding guide is just an estimate.i make sure to pick a food with the highest protein levels as it keeps them fuller for longer.also make sure to give plenty of water.xx
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Jacqui Campuzano• 3 years ago
Hi, I have an 17 month old Borzoi and would absolutely not consider any other food, I have also carried out months of careful painstaking research, so forgive me but it sounds like you need to get to grips with your dog, if you don't mind me saying so.. Miles Kington
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Jennifer Pearson• 7 years ago
Apologies in advance for the long comment :). I do ramble on a bit but hopefully I've made a few sound points to consider for dog owners out there. Most of my opinions are based on in depth research which I have personally enjoyed undertaking.I thought about trying this food (and similar foods), but it has far too much protein and I don't like the fact that the company are misleading consumers by claiming that some of their meat is 'fresh' (like it has come straight out of a butchers or fish mongers). The general definition of 'fresh' (in relation to food) is: "recently made or obtained; not tinned, frozen, or otherwise preserved". Dry food is preserved in a bag until opened (which could be 10 months after it is packaged) so can't be fresh!!As the review above has correctly pointed out, carbs are essential in a dog's diet and they do too (despite the contrary) require a balanced diet. Dogs are now omnivores and not carnivores like Wolves which are greatly separated from dogs over thousands of years. Wolves eat only meat but DOGS ARE NOT WILD WOLVES so cannot survive on just meat or high levels of meat. This is why I also disagree with people who feed dogs just raw meat- with a well balanced good quality dry food (which is usually formulated by nutritional experts) you know exactly how many vitamins, minerals, supplements, etc you are providing so why try and mix up your own recipe which could lack essential ingredients? Dogs have eaten alongside humans for 1000s of years, and we mainly consume rice, potatos and other grains along with meat and Veg. And like humans, some dogs are allergic to certain grains or meats so require a specific diet. But grain should not be pointed out as the main culprit, as it is essential and provides plenty of nutrients. Many dogs do fine on diets which contain grain.Furthermore, high protein foods are high in fat content (causing weight issues) and can also lead to serious health issues in liver and kidney function. Some dog owners will say that their dog is doing or looking great on the food (I've even heard people say that their dogs are doing great on 'Wagg'). That might be true on the outside (i.e. energy levels are great, coat is great, etc) but you can't possibly know what a food is doing to a dog internally and to its organs.So, the decision whether or not to try this food for your dog shouldn't be based on comments that just claim that 'their dog has thrived on this food', but on more revised and informed comments or reviews. Some dogs 'will' do fine and be stronger and immune to certain diseases, but other dogs will most likely become ill being on a high protein and minimal Carb diet. So you have to be careful and its important to do some research first and learn about what a dog's body and immune system actually requires to function properly.In my opinion, the 5 out of 5 rating for this food (and a few others I've seen on this website) is mainly based on the high level of meat content (the lack of carbs and the potential health risks are significant factors to consider as well). This high rating could be a problem when a dog owner is trying to choose a food for their dog as they will be automatically drawn to the highest rated food. I've seen perfectly balanced dog foods with 25-30% meat content marked as low as 3 out of 5. Don't get me wrong, I think this website is really good but I think some foods are overrated based on the level of certain ingredients.
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Jennifer Pearson• 4 years ago
You're right you do ramble on and on and on .
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Jennifer Pearson• 3 years ago
The term fresh is that they make the food from fresh source directly to their kitchen... not that the food you get is fresh.... thats obviuos and you can read that on their webpage...HIGH % carbs are NOT essential in a dog's diet...There are a lot of studies..... I dont know where you get that..DOGS ARE NOT OMNIVORES are you serious??!... this comment is so wrong...first of all dogs are not humans and their nut. requirements are completly different... waw.
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A Colon• 2 years ago
Great comment. Furthermore there are no scientific studies demonstrating too much proteins is a problem
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Jennifer Pearson• one year ago
Dogs Aren’t wolfs they from the same family as the same with foxes jackels
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Valerie jones• 7 years ago
I've been feeding my Border collies Orijen Adult Whole Prey for almost 4 years now. Two of the dogs are into their 12th year and still racing and competing in flyball. They have never been ill. my other 2 dogs, one who competes in our top team in flyball are also fed on Orijen. Their coats are excellent, they have lots of stamina, their stools are consistenly firm, and I can't praise this food enough because it is so good (IMO) Even fanatical raw feeders say it is the nearest thing you can get to a dogs natural food. So many dog foods on the market contain cheap bulk such as potato, sweet potato etc, which they have replaced grain and cereal with. Not cheap, but my dogs have never been healthier, had as much stamina as since I put them on Orijen.
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Haley Thompson• 7 years ago
I'm a bit conused/concerned. I am American living in England (so I have to do a lot of conversions haha). In the states I fed a very high quality food packed full of protein, very similar to Orijen. Once in England I could no longer get my American food so I decided to recently switch to Orijen. I looked up my dogs' weights and the amount I should be feeding (I'm assuming per day) and it's such a tiny amount! They can eat their entire meal in 2-3 bites (I feed them am/pm). Am I calculating it correctly or misunderstanding the bag? Maybe I'm converting incorrectly? My dogs are ~14 and 23kg, medium active. It just seems like such a tiny amount and no matter how good a food is how can they be getting all the nutrients they need and feel full off of 2-3 bites twice a day?
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elie turner• 8 years ago
Just looking at Rob Staves and Bubbles conversation - come on guys, it's well known that vets are on a huge commission from Royal Canin. That's why they're always heavily promoting it. Everything in it is so processed. If humans are told to stay away from processed food, surely the same goes for animal food.
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elie turner• 6 years ago
As someone who works in a vet I can tell you that vets get a discount from buying food from the Reps plus they get invited to Seminars etc. They do not get a commission from them.
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elie turner• 3 years ago
true
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Andrew Weaver• 8 years ago
I am a dog trainer and a dog owner to three terriers, two J/R/Ts and a Patterdale. My dogs love this, both the 7 fish version, and the red version. They have been eating this for around 2 years and they are in perfect condition. I do recommend this product to my clients also, as though it is expensive per bag, the cost per day is low, unless of course you own a large breed.
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Tanz• 8 years ago
While I'm sure this works well for some dogs it made my precious eight month old ill. Within two weeks of starting it she was pacing straight after eating, burping and gulping. Thinking she was eating too fast I tried go slow bowls. It came to a head when she started vomiting and became increasingly lethargic. Her coat became coarse and darker in colour (she's usually light cream) and extremely watery eyes. One week later after a vet visit and a bland diet then transitioning to barking heads, she's like a new dog. Full of beans, shiny coat which is lightening back up to her usual colour and no longer gulping, vomiting or pacing and has stopped scavenging for food. It was most definitely the food, we tried puppy and six fish, it was the six fish that tipped her over the edge for the worst. I was feeding less than the recommendation so it wasn't from giving too much either.
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Julie S• 8 years ago
My working cocker lost nearly 3kg on this, and I was feeding nearly double the recommended amount. I wasn't impressed at all and we went back to Barking Heads.
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DotaFelo• 8 years ago
Actually, it is too good. My old boxer-lady has been on Regional Red for a while and likes it very much, but the problem is my three months old English Bulldog pup, I have just acquired, loves it. I have tried everything and simply cannot keep the little one away from her dish at lunchtime. What's worse, he now refuses to eat his puppy chow, Hussa, which the breeder recommended. Mixing the two won't help, as the little bully is smart enough to spit the Hussa out, away from the dish and continue with his favorite now Orijen bits. Frustrating. Yet, proves the Orijen formula is excellent. By the way, my Boxer is eleven, and her recent blood test results, as well as her ECG surprised even her vet - outstanding :). Neither does she look or act her age. I guess, I might as well be selling it too ;)
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DotaFelo• 4 years ago
Don't listen to your breeder as they raise so many dogs they can't afford to feed them good food.
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Elizabeth• 8 years ago
We think Regional Red is outstanding. It appeared my dog was desperate to have more fulfilling or better quality food than the brand he was on, when he was a young pup. When I started him on Orijen his craving stopped and he was satisfied and thrived. He's been on Regional Red for the last 2 years and I've never been more happy with a dog food in over 30 years of having dogs. It smells wholesome; his waste is neat and he doesn't need a massive amount so works out less than you first think. I always mix it with a little wet food and veg if it's going spare.
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Scamp DW• 8 years ago
My three dogs - two mini schnauzers and an Imaal terrier - are all fed Orijen (mixed with Nature's Diet) and they are rarely ill.Nothing is ever left in their bowlsTheir coats, vitality, and all-round wellbeing are awesome. And, most noticeably, their poos are perfect.Yes, it costs more - but you use less.Worryingly, our vet still remain opposed to anything other than Royal Canin, a brand they sell in their reception - funny that.
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Scamp DW• 8 years ago
Vets are a business at the end of the day and they need to make a profit. They don't benefit from healthy dogs.
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Rob Staves• 8 years ago
The majority of vets, who studied many years, work long hours, get called in the middle of the night any day of the year, and go above and beyond for pets, get into the profession because they LOVE ANIMALS. Some vets recommend RC because they have a large selection of foods for specific diseases. Plenty of vets recommend other brands or raw feeding. Also with your logic, don't ever go to a doctor, because they'll try to intentionally make you sick so you'll come back *rolls eyes*
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hubble• 8 years ago
Go to a Dr. and you're likely to get sick waiting in the waiting room. When you do finally see one, they'll give you five-ten minutes of their time and try and prescribe antidepressants to you whether you need it or not, or some other drug at the time.*Rolls eyes*I don't question that a lot of vets do love animals, however, it is a business and the objective of the business is to make money. In terms of food, I'm yet to come across one veterinary practice that sells raw or any decent brand of food.
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Rob Staves• 8 years ago
Yes, that's what doctors and vets do, run tests and give medicine (or surgery or other treatments). What giving drugs is a bad thing now? Last time I checked they saved lives.I don't think being hounded to take antidepressants is the general experience, if your GP is then maybe he/she's caught on to something in your behavior?By the way, there are vet practices that stock Orijen. But you keep hinting that because vets aren't non-profit, they will only prioritize making money over the health and safety of pets, (even though you admitted alot do love animals). Therefore, any food they stock will be only for their financial benefit and the food's quality cannot be trusted. Thereofore Orijen cannot be trusted. (your logic,not mine) Also, you can't have thought your previous comment through about a veterinary practice selling raw. You do realize the facilities that would take (refrigeration) and the contamination risk (bacteria, parasites, and sick pets roaming around)
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Rob Staves• 6 years ago
As someone who works in a vet we work long hard hours and even shed tears over the animals in our care. Yes we do sometimes have to hurry things along because we have a room full of people who complain and make loud remarks when we make them late because someone actually had a sick pet and needed a lot of tests or our time. We often find that customers are the ones who are reluctant to try anything other than medication and won't accept and I quote "that hippy shit". I know in particular one customer who had a dog with behavioral problems that then caused physical problems and despite repeated advice to go to a behavioralist, exercise the dog more and try training techniques, refused all this and demanded medication. Customers are quick to doubt us and complain incessantly about the price and I know for a fact (at least in my vets) that our margins are razor thin and we are not rolling in money even though we are understaffed and underpaid.Yes we are a business and we are trying to make money and we sell toys, toothpaste, food etc. If you stock 15 different high quality food brands then how on earth are you going to recommend the best food for the animal. It makes sense to stick with a brand like Science Plan/Royal Canin because it's not a terrible food (i know it's not a great food but a lot of dogs seem to thrive on it) and it's simple to recommend as they come in age brackets and one flavour. They also make specialist food which is routinely used to help conditions. So why would we give the Specialist food and not recommend their normal food. Also most vets have limited space for food so again doesn't make sense to stock a lot of different brands. The main point of selling Scien Plan/Royal Canin is that the brand commonly used is a vets only brand and we want people to stay loyal with us because we are a business and need to make money. If they come in for food they'll probably come in for flea treatment, nurse advice, puppy classes and then also if their animal is sick. We like to see loyal customers coming back because that is what brings in the money, not people who stop in when their animal is on deaths door and they need it put down.A lot of vets won't recommend raw feeding because there are very few studies or research which proves it's effectiveness. Plus selling raw food in a place full of sick animals seems like a recipe for disaster. Plus the electricity bill would be through the roof and we need the money to buy better equipment so your animal survives.
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Rachel Ireland• 6 years ago
Well said.
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Rob Staves• 6 years ago
Raw is a fad most vets will be glad to see the back of. Vets have your pets health as their primary concern. Contrary to opinion, they do not make a lot of money and earn a lot less than doctors and dentists, despite their 6 yr training, then many further years of post grad training. My god daughter is a vet student. The more I learn about the realities, the more the uneducated negative opinions of vets sound ridiculously stupid.
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Fiona• 6 years ago
Fiona, I am sure vets have the dogs best interests at heart, however, recommending yearly vaccinations, chemical spot on treatments, and having no training or next to none in nutrition and behaviour, says otherwise. Hills Science Plan, Royal Canin, any kind of prescription diet sold at the vets, these all have a detrimental effect on our pets.Furthermore, there isn't a set standard and certainly not all vets conform to it. There are some excellent vets, some poor and a fair few awful ones!Lastly but not least, raw isn't a fad and there are an increasing amount of owners switching to raw food and seeing the benefits and more research is being done on it.Also, a lot of these "uneducated, negative opinions" stems from people's bad experiences of vets!When I first got my dog, two vets failed to diagnose she had mange!
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Rob Staves• 6 years ago
I've never met a vet who doesn't know what mange is and how to test for it. I suppose it is possible you met the only two vets in the country unable to diagnose it. I prefer to give my dogs treatments that actually work. The rubbish recommended for the 'natural' prevention of fleas and ticks is total nonsense. I've done extensive research and reading around the subject, dozens of hours, reading both sides of the argument. Vaccinations of course can be done less frequently with titre testing. My vet doesn't stock pet food at all, and does have an animal nutritionist available for consults each week. The increasing amount of owners turning to raw is a testament to the power of the internet and the alternative pet food industry, who are making a fortune. To each his own. I practice evidence based medicine. Without evidence, claims are just empty.
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Fiona• 6 years ago
I also believe in science based evidence and don't believe anything I read on the internet unless its backed up by evidence, references etc.I've been giving my dog natural supplements to repel fleas, ticks, mites, diatomaceous earth, and another natural supplement for worming. I also do a worm count. I've been doing this for the last eight months and haven't experienced any problems whatsoever and we are both much happier that I no longer have to give her a horrible insecticide spot on treatment or chemical wormer every month, three or what have you.The fact that you proport to only use things backed up by science but then dismiss raw feeding as a fad and feed a dry food (I presume) and that the alternative pet food industry is making a fortune, would be hilarious if it wasn't so damning or left me utterly dumbfounded.I won't be pursuing this conversation further as it is a complete waste of my time.However, lets try and get back in touch in a few years and compare how our dogs have fared.One on a dry food diet with monthly spot on and three monthly worming treatments.The other on a holistic, natural diet and supplements where possible and we will compare.
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Rob Staves• 6 years ago
I know exactly how mine will be. Bursting with health, as all my dogs have been. Nothing as pompous as the anti vax, anti vet brigade. The 'chemicals' are poisonous to fleas and ticks, NOT dogs. As a doctor, we meet these kind of fixed beliefs on occasion. Ridiculous, and self destructive.smh.
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Fiona• 2 years ago
Oh wow Fiona how have you survived through life this long? If you aren't even willing to open your mind and actually learn something new then jokes on you. There is so much scientific documentation out there that discusses the harmful effect of worming tablets and spot on flea treatments. You are essentially putting man made pesticides on your dog. We know pesticides cause us long term health problems and that is just us inhaling it. You don't think there will be any long term effects from putting them directly on your dogs skin or having them ingest them? And why keep mentioning anti vaxxers? What do they have to do with this conversation? you have just shown everyone exactly what kind of person you are. the name Karen comes to mind. No point telling you to research because your mind is made up but don't try and push your warped views and attitude on others. I 1000% believe that Robs dogs will ultimately be far healthier in years to come and do please invite me if you ever do meet up,I think it would be a hoot 😆
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Rob Staves• 6 years ago
You don't believe in anything you read unles backed up by the internet yet you give your dogs 'natural' supplements "to repel fleas ticks, mites" what a load of bullshit.
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Fiona• 6 years ago
8 months and counting, not a problem whatsoever. I no longer have to give her harsh chemicals and pesticides such as Advocate which have been known to strip paint off walls and come with a warning not to get on your own skin. What about the dogs?!Carry on feeding your dog a processed dry food diet, apply monthly spot on treatments, vaccinate yearly and whatever else.As I said, lets compare in a few years.Your comment about raw being a fad and and that the chemical spot on treatments are only poisonous to fleas and ticks, well, its utterly baffling if not laughable and outright shocking.You can carry on with your venomous tirade, I will not be responding. I neither have the time nor the inclination.However, I do implore you to go to seminars and talks about natural foods and remedies, holisticvet is fantastic. Karen Becker and Planet Paws on facebook are two useful resources to look into. Dogster is handy.There is plenty of research and plenty more emerging every day of the dangers of over vaccinating, monthly spot on treatments (dangers not only to our pet but the surrounding environment), feeding a dry food diet only and so much more. I implore you to have an open mind and do more research or at least contemplate a more natural approach for your dog.I do cordially invite you to discuss these matters in a private forum with me if you're able to be polite, have an intellectual conversation and refrain from such atrocious language. I've only got so much soap in my dispenser."Curiosity opens doors, judgement slams them shut."
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Fiona• 6 years ago
Fad? Dang it's been a long ole fad ... definition of a fad is a short lived craze.. I've been raw feeding nearly 15 years without any issues at all, to on average five dogs at a time - I reckon I've fed an estimated 54'600 meals and that will be an underestimate, as I've had more than five dogs at some point, and thus fed more than 10 raw meals per week.Vets will be waiting one HECK of a long time to see the back of raw feeding - it's been around as long as dogs have existed, it's been popular on a commercial basis for at least the last 10 years and the more we do it, the more we know about it, the better it gets and so the better dogs do.
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Emma Judson• 6 years ago
Dogs have been omnivores far longer than they have been carnivores. Raw meet is full of bugs, what a shame this expensive idiocy is pushed by the same anti-vaccination morons.
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Fiona• 6 years ago
... I did not claim that dogs are obligate carnivores, for they are not. You have misunderstood me quite wildly but then, I suspect that was your intention as you do not appear to like reading what is actually said do you!Dogs are omnivores, however their dentition and digestive tract evidences their superior ability to digest meat and in particular, raw meat that may even be going off - scavengers in fact, who can also digest some vegetable matter, particularly that which is partially digested already.They are in that respect almost the exact opposite to humans, an omnivore whose dentition and digestive tract evidences their superior ability to digest vegetables, seeds and roots and meat if they can get it.Raw meat may well be full of bacteria and pathogens (or 'bugs' as you put it), but the short digestive tract of the canine is well adapted to take care of that, with strong stomach acids and a short transit time.I don't recall where I put that I was anti-vaccine, another conclusion you have lept to without any evidence whatsoever - but even if I were foolishly anti-vaccine, which I am not, I cannot think of a single vaccine that covers anything a dog could ONLY contract from consuming raw meat and not from any other source.Would you care to enlighten me as you clearly are a fount of knowledge.
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Emma Judson• 2 years ago
I love this response.thank you.
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Fiona• 2 years ago
Dogs have been omnivores far longer than carnivores? Please think about that statement and how ridiculous it was! Woman check yourself lol 😆
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Fiona• 5 years ago
A Fad seriously? Raw is the healthiest way to feed your dogs. The only reason vets will be glad to see the back of it is because it helps to keep animals away from them.
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Rob Staves• 2 years ago
I totally agree with you My! My vets looked at me like I had two heads when I told them I fed raw. They even told me they discourage it because they had lots of dogs that got sick and the humans weren't storing it correctly and they were also getting sick from their raw dog food. To me that just sounds like bad ownership and if you feed raw then do it properly. My dog has his own separate fridge and freezer plus counter top and utensils. The vets then tried to push me on science plan and then royal canin which are the WORST food! I've had my pup on eden for the first 8 months but it ended up disagreeing with him. I have spent so much time trying new foods, researching and speaking to nutritionists about what to feed him its been a nightmare. The vets is a business and they are always out to make money. The long term effects of a poor diet and wrong food can shed years off your dogs life. This Orijen food is so far the best I have found and my pup went through months of not eating properly, going off food, being really fussy and so many vet trips for a bad stomach, I paid so much for all kinds of tests until I came across Orijen. He has been thriving on this food and he wolfs it down I've never seen him eat like that. He is happier and has a spring in his step. I couldn't be more over the moon with this food after so long struggling. Dont trust what the vets say about nutrition. Do your own research
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Tori Adams• 2 years ago
Well done, especially for the storage and preparation of raw food. Orijen was a brilliant food, but I eventually switched to raw some years ago and this has been the best thing that I've done for my dog and I.Unfortunately, a lot of vets don't know much about nutrition, and this reflects in their care of your dog. Diet causes so many issues and a lot can be resolved by feeding a good quality raw food.Alas, trying to get this across to people can be really difficult, as they will do what the vet says even if this is at the detriment to their dogs' health.
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Julie Herbert• 8 years ago
My dogs thrive on Orijen Adult, has anyone tried Orijen regional and what is the difference apart from being much more expensive ?
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Julie Herbert• 8 years ago
Regional Red is the fancy, all singing, all dancing version. The only difference is the use of more premium ingredients and no chicken (which is in most dog food as it is cheaper than most single source protein meat). Great if you can afford it, otherwise Orijen Adult is good enough.
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john ferries• 8 years ago
Hi,we have 4 dogs,the one lme particularly asking advice on is our latest rescue Bruno,he is a blk lab 32 kg.we have been advised to put him on a raw diet which we tried but don't really want to stay on that.he is a very hyper dog,sometimes like a child with ADHD,but getting better the last few months.we have been told to find a food with no additives etc.would this be OK? Thanks in advance
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john ferries• 8 years ago
Orijen is the best dry food available so far. I can't recommend in enough. In fact, its so good, I've become a retailer myself!
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john ferries• 8 years ago
Yes this would be great as it is a raw food diet - flash frozen apparently! And there is nothing added to it. I have been using it for 2 years, after one of my dogs developed cancer I was convinced it was the crappy tinned food I was feeding him - never realised how bad it was till I read up on it. I changed to orijen and he survived another 2 years despite the vet only giving him a month to 6mths. The difference in his coat was unbelievable, his eyes were better he had more life and as like a young dog again. I then had a French bulldog and put her on it her shape is amazing as is her coat it is so silky - I would never use anything else! I'm so passionate about this food I think I could sell it lol
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Deb• 6 years ago
Tinned food doesn't cause cancer. FFS.
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Fiona• 2 years ago
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Michelle Marshall• 8 years ago
Hi Rob, our local pet shop stocks it so I collect it.
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Michelle Marshall• 8 years ago
Thanks for letting me know Michelle. You mentioned he thrives on Orijen as does my dog and believe it or not, I also sell the Thrive treats ;)
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Alison Gordon• 8 years ago
Hi - it's around £50. I don't pay delivery as I live 1/3 mile from the pet shop and they get in the 6 fish variety for me to order
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Rob Staves• 8 years ago
When I got my dog from the local animal shelter she was somewhat underweight, had mange and overall didn't look particularly well. I put her on Orijen and she has come on in leaps and bounds. She has had no issues thus far, is very active, has tremendous muscle definition, looks incredibly healthy and has a very slick, shiny coat.I recommend Orijen to anyone and everyone I meet and although it is expensive initially, over time it is much, much cheaper than other grain free, hypoallergenic foods such as Wainwright's, Simpsons, Akela etc. and much better too as it has such a wide and diverse ingredients list.In fact, I'm now a stockist of Orijen as I only believe in feeding my dog the very best and want to promote it to other people as much as possible!
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Rob Staves• 8 years ago
Do you have any samples please as i have a very fussy dog and not sure if he will like it. Thank you
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June• 6 years ago
Of course he doesn't have samples. He's a business, and in it for the money.
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Fiona• 6 years ago
Why so angry fifi?!
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Michelle Marshall• 8 years ago
We used to feed our lab Canagan. Health wise / fitness he was fine on this but just went off it. After reading lots of reviews etc we switched to Orijen and he loves it and continues to thrive :)
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Alison Gordon• 9 years ago
Moved my Westie onto this about 8 months ago and he loves the 6 fish variety and he is in awesome condition. Had some minor allergy issues last year when he was on James Wellbeloved but so far so good on this. Expensive but worth every penny in my view.
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Kelly• 9 years ago
I've just switched to Orijen as it was so highly rated. My cockapoo is extremely fussy with her food but she absolutely adores this, she can't get enough of it. Was previously using Eden which is also very good but I thought I'd give this a go and can't see myself ever going back. I prefer the smell of Orijen and it's a nicer size and not quite so hard. I also feed her soft complete food too, so she has about half soft food and half kibble each day.
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Paul Holzherr• 9 years ago
I was out walking today and someone gave me some Orijen to try for my little dog. I gave him one little piece at a time and he was licking my fingers in anticipation of the next bit! I think it is worth spending time to find a good healthy diet for our dogs! I suspect the industrial foods are not always good for our pets.
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Catherine Grose• 9 years ago
I was so excited about switching to Orijen but my young dog (Golden Doodle) was totally disinterested in it. I had to add yogurt to every meal to trick him into eating it. The food had little by way of smell (just a vaguely unpleasant odor) compared to his previous food which had a strong fish smell. May give it another go in the future as it sounds so great and he was on antibiotics during some of the bag so maybe he wan't himself.
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Mundyboy• 9 years ago
I have fed my three Cocker Spaniels on the same well known (not cheap) dog food since I have had them. The old boy (11) had hot spots which were very slow to go and he was showing signs of slowing down. After reading about Orijen on this site and reading member’s comments I swapped him onto Orijen Senior. What a change! His skin has cleared up, his coat is so much better and (not to be indelicate) he has turned frisky like a youngster again. I know the food is not cheap but I am happy that he so obviously happy. As soon as my stock of ‘the other’ food has gone then the two girls are going onto Orijen. I just hope I can keep up with all of them!
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Mel Rogers• 9 years ago
I began feeding this food 2 months ago and my dogs are not as flatulent or smelly and they go to the toilet less often. Their coats are soft and very glossy to the point people comment on their coats. There is a downside, this food can not maintain the weight of very active dogs. I fed top end of the recommended amount for active dogs to both of mine and they lost weight badly. They get a 2 hour walk a day, one dog is on double the recommended amount and the other on triple the recommended amount and they are still dropping weight. There are no medical reasons as I have had them checked. I now have no choice but to change their food as can not afford to continue with Orijen. It is a shame as I love the way they look and the energy they have on it.
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Mel Rogers• 9 years ago
Hi Mel, Two suggestions: Mix Orijen with Markus Muhle (£30 15kg bad from Zooplus) which should keep the weight on, or try Acana Adult (same maker as Orijen) which contains 20% oats. I have two 6yr old labs and they look great on the Acana, Orijen and Markus Muhle which I rotate or something feed mixed.
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Dawn• 8 years ago
Hi Dawn. Really glad I read your post. Our 1-yr-old female cockerpoo is on Markus Muhle by recommendation from her breeder. WE love MM as she has gorgeous coat, nice poos, etc. But she seems to HATE it now and will only eat it when starving. I was looking to totally switching her to Orijen or Eden, but the protein content would be almost double what she is getting on MM. Do you mix 50/50 each day? I bet she'll just eat around the MM, and only eat the Orijen/Eden! Can you comment any more, a year on?
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Mel Rogers• 9 years ago
I train and compete with my 3 collies in flyball and they are more or less free running/racing around all day, every day and I give less than the recommended amount as I have to watch their weights.
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Aly young• 10 years ago
Aly Just changed my dogs food from Royal Canin adult ,to Orijen adult ( whole prey). Introduced it gradually over a two week period, now on it fully. I found this site very helpful when making my final decision. She is an active 2yr old boxer , who gets plenty of excercise. It says to give 240- 330g a day, but I give a little extra in the morning feed ( as she burns of most of her energy in morning walks). So far she's doing well on new food, and she gets excited when you go to bag ( as she knows it's feeding time). It smells better than last food , and she obviously enjoys it. It is more expensive than other brands, but I think she's worth it.
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jen• 10 years ago
I started my one year old cockerpoo on orijen two weeks ago. Previously she had been eating Canagan, which is had to mix with cheaper brands or cereal to get her to even look at! (She didn't like canagan and has always been a picky eater!) as soon as I opened the bag of Orijen, I worried she wouldn't like it, it was in small pieces, brown and boring! I couldn't have been more wrong. My dog absolutely loves this food. She seems healthier and her coat is growing faster. I would definitely recommend this to anyone. The best thing about it is the small feeding portions, which makes the food much cheaper than you think.
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jen• 8 years ago
Hi Jen. We have a picky 1-yr cockerpoo. our breeder says this high protein food will make her kill our lawn with her high protein pee!? Can you comment?
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Emily Cotton• 8 years ago
Hi Emily, My dogs wee does stain the grass a very slight shade of green darker. I don't think it's particularly noticeable and I wouldn't say it's any different to when she's eaten different food brands. I hope that helps! Jen
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jen• 8 years ago
Thanks, Jen. How many times have you changed/tried different foods with your dog? And where do you buy your Orijen for best deals? Thanks.
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Emily Cotton• 4 years ago
Your breeder sounds more concerned about your lawn than your dog.
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Lexi sbt• 10 years ago
I've recently started feeding my 17 month Staffordshire bull terrier orijen I've gone from many good quality brands from jwb, applaws, wainwrights, Adrian grange, science plan and lots more. She's always been picky apart from her being on a raw diet I've wasted so much money with trial and error it really is untrue I've been firm but they comes that line that I need to yet again reconsider another brand of kibble I love my dog and the breed of the Staffordshire bull terriers I've been left to look at the odd few brands I've not tried the top end of the market orijen I can not thank you enough I have without a doubt found a high quality kibble that for the first time and I thought id never see the day she loves the stuff she's even finished, left the room and even gone back to a empty bowl she now looks so athletic and happy
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Lesley Duncan• 10 years ago
I started my border collie on Orijen adult about 2 years ago. She seems to have a delicate stomach and I tried various different foods to try and sort her out. She also had a weird skin patch on one of her legs which seemed to be itchy and all the hair fell out. Once I moved her onto Orijen she never looked back, has a wonderful glossy coat and almost never has stomach problems unless she manages to pick up a dead fish or something equally revolting when she's out on the beach. I don't have to feed her as much of this as other food, probably due to the high protein and because she's able to digest it better I actually find that she poops much less too. Worth every penny I think.
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Ita• 10 years ago
I began feeding my labrador or Burns Chicken & Rice, then tried Arden Grange Sensitive and Acacia Grasslands. I have always avoided any food or treats with artificial additives or preservatives. My dog Ruby has always had quite a coarse coat and upon researching some more on the internet, I decided to try Orijen Adult for her. I have just ordered her second 13kg bag and Ruby is very happy, her coat is a lot softer and shinier and her weight is stable at around 27/28 kilos. I would definitely recommend this food, even if it is a bit costly. It makes me happy to see all the wonderful reviews and I am happy I have my dog on this, she is my best friend and deserves the best. Highly recommended. P.S. I used to have my other labrador on Science Diet I/D and Sensitive as recommended by my vets - I realize now this was not a good food and full of things I don't even care to mention. Plus my dog had a hot spot on her face which was very sore and only kept at bay by her being on antibiotics all the time for the last 18 months or so of her life - I read now that this food could have caused this! Steer clear of Science Diet!
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Hobnobs Mum• 2 months ago
UK Regional Red recipe has changed, bought 2 bags at the same time in early December. The "original" recipe has bison and pilchards but these are removed in the new recipe, replaced with more beef liver and salmon. There are other small changes too.
Symbiotic Canine Beh• 2 months ago
For everyone in the UK concerned about recipe changes to this brand, it’s only the US food that’s been affected. If you visit Orijens US website and their UK one, the ingredients lists are different to one another hence why on AADF US residents may think this data is outdated, but for the UK it’s not. I’m under the impression the UK recipe will be staying the same
Bruised often• 5 months ago
We used to give Eden a good year ago to our Mali and to be honest it gave him bad stools and wasn’t for him. We changed to Orijen and since his stools are always firm and he has put on good lean muscle n great shiny coat. Orijen has added more vitamins it would seem though the food we currently get is still produced in Alberta, Canada.
Our Mali walk around 15-20km a day everyday, plus is always out and about with us throughout the day, he is 32kg and we are giving him 480-500g a day. I can see where there is some concern for the company being bought by mars but looking at their site and fb they state they haven’t changed their recipes and are staying as a separate entity. He gets his training treats as part of his daily ration and we are careful with any other additional treats. A lot of loose stools are due to over feeding imho. He also gets probiotic tablets each day as a supplement.
They would have to state if its made elsewhere and for the moment we will keep an eye on things, there’s not many other dry food that can beat it. We consider raw but this may be too expensive for us.
Mrs Cooper • 6 months ago
I am concerned that Orijen has been bought by Mars and is opening a production site in CHINA.
I AM NOW LOOKING FOR A NEW FOOD for my Italian Greyhound who loves this food, but I nolonger trust it to continue buying it.
Calvin Shia• 7 months ago
The ingredients are not the same anymore so watch out when you are buying the next bag. They downgraded the food with preservatives and bunch of additives since Mars bought them over. Almost made the switch until I noticed the uncanny ingredient list and found out about the acquisition.
AADF please also update your analysis, I doubt if they are worthy of this rating now.
Diana Salygaitė• 9 months ago
Have 2x sensitive english bull terriers I been feeding this for some time, but after design change -dogs refuses to eat. Orijen now owned by new people, something changed in the ingridients. Already found alternative for my sensitive dogs -carnilove salmon, which also have good rating.
ruth astill• 10 months ago
Came to look for info Ted has been very happy with this for 8(ish) years until the new bag. Now turning away and leaving it. Will be changing brands for something more locally available.
Will Vale-Onslow• 10 months ago
I’ve had the same experience as many others recently. I used to rave about this and advocated for friends and family to use it too. Suddenly the bag design changed and my dog went off it. I’ve subsequently chanted brands and he got his appetite back, I tried it again to see if it was a bad batch, or whether my dog was getting fickle and he still doesn’t like it.
Kat Jordan• 11 months ago
Made the change to Orijen just over a year ago, resolved a lot of issues for us. The dogs' bowel movements were regular and of good consistency, they slept through the night better, and they refused to eat anything OTHER than Orijen. Bought our last bag in February (£90 a bag, £75 when we changed over to it!!) and witnessed a noticeable change in their poops, that became bloody and mucus-y - which suggests an inclusion of an ingredient they're intolerant to. They also became very reluctant to eat the food, sometimes going a couple of days turning their noses up at it. We swapped to Eden, which sadly has a lower nutritional rating, but resolved their bowel issues almost instantly. Gutted Orijen sold out, I would've never swapped from them if the quality hadn't dipped.
Christopher Mitchell• one year ago
While I agree there is something different about the product, as my dog is less keen, it is my understanding we still have the Canadian version of the food in the UK and not the Kentucky manufactured kibble. I bought a 2kg bag from Pets at Home and it says made in Alberta Canada.
Sabine Amelia• one year ago
This used to be the only dog food that wouldn’t irritate our bully mix pup and it made her coat shiny and smell free - all until after purchasing a fresh bag that cost almost £90 for 11kg a few months ago- only to find out it’s giving her diarrhoea and all sorts of issues and us having to take her off it. Waste of money and never bought again.
Kat Jordan Sabine Amelia• 11 months ago
Yep! Gave both our Lab mix and our Westie bloody/mucusy diarrhoea after having no issues on it for over a year.
Sadiesmum• one year ago
My dog has been eating this for 2 yrs but no longer likes it. The formula has changed - no salmon now and more additives. The price is rocketed as well so now looking for alternatives. Disappointed that they have sold out to Mars and am
sure the quality will suffer. Now available at Pets at Home presumably because of the Mars link. Shame it was such a good food, which my oh thrived on but not any more.
Angela Sharp Sadiesmum• one year ago
I am still feeding this as my dog is still eating it but it now comes from their Kentucky plant not Canada. There are changes to the ingredient list and I guess more will come at which point I will stop buying.
Currently I am also trialing N&D food in various varieties. It is a quality food made with fresh meat with impressive methods. The ingredients are traceable and it's worth reading up on the company Farmina. I am impressed and think this is the food I will transfer to.
Fiona Little Angela Sharp• 10 months ago
Can I ask what is N&D ?
Kat Jordan Sadiesmum• 11 months ago
Came on here specifically to find out if other people were having the same issues as us. Turns out they are! Dogs won't eat it, and when they do it gives them bad poops.
Luka for President• one year ago
I’ve noticed (presumably since the Mars takeover) that you can now buy Orijen from Pets at Home-slightly cheaper too.
Will have to see whether the quality drops off,over time.
Bcam2• one year ago
This ingredients list is now very out of date
Jill Hirst• one year ago
Now sadly bought out by Mars 🤷♀️
https://www.petfoodindustry.com/articles/11722-mars-petcare-acquiring-champion-petfoods
Jack Cook• one year ago
Something has changed. Our dog has loved this stuff for the past 2 years. We got a new bag last month (different style packaging) and she either won’t go near it, or very hesitantly eats but leaves a large amount. Very unusual. The couple of times we have convinced her to have some she’s vomited it back up within 20 mins. An almost whole 11kg bag is going to be thrown away and we’ll have to find a new brand. Really disappointed that not only have they change something but then put the prices up as well… I wish I had kept the bag packaging before emptying it into her food storage container so I could get the batch number and complain direct. Orijen reverse whatever changes you’ve made to the recipe!!!
Jill Hirst Jack Cook• one year ago
https://www.petfoodindustry.com/articles/11722-mars-petcare-acquiring-champion-petfoods
Angela Sharp Jack Cook• one year ago
The food has changed and made in Kentucky plant not Canada. I am trying out N&D dog food which is made with fresh meat from farms, ingredients traceable. Various varieties and impressive. Made by Farmina, definitely worth looking at their company info and ingredients list.
Vdouglas13• one year ago
Half way down new 11kg bag and dogs stools are getting sloppy and stinky wind.... I'm thinking this food is not suiting him at all.... My previous pup loved it and never had any issues.... Will be moving onto raw I think to try him on that.... The cost is so much less too.... The price of orijen has rocketed!
Jill Hirst Vdouglas13• one year ago
https://www.petfoodindustry.com/articles/11722-mars-petcare-acquiring-champion-petfoods
Lemondrizzle • one year ago
Our nine year old boxer has been on orijen for the past five years and has thrived on it but in the last four weeks the price has increased by four pounds taking the cost for 11kg to £93.99. In the last year it has increased by at least £12. As a retired couple watching the pennies we cannot sustain these price increases so sadly we may well be forced to change to a different brand.
Bcam15• one year ago
Has this food been changed? We have been feeding our 6 yr old Labrador this food since a puppy. She’s always been very happy to eat it. We have, a few days ago, opened a new bag - with new design packaging - and she is absolutely refusing to touch it - she backs away and turns her head away. She’s eating all the other food we’re giving her and she’s her normal happy, well self and, clearly, hungry. She refused it again all day today but, when we gave her a handful of Orijen we found in the previous bag, with the old style packaging, she happily ate it. The food also looks slightly different. It’s shiny and darker brown in colour. Has anyone else had the same experience please (U.K.)?
Vdouglas13 Bcam15• one year ago
interested in this too as my dog has started eating his grazing instead of wolfing it down... new bag here too.
Dusty Hammond Vdouglas13• one year ago
If you look at the ingredient list on the new bags of Orijen Original, the ingredient list has changed slightly. Also they're adding more vitamins and minerals whereas they use to only add chelated Zinc (which suggested all the nutrients were coming from the ingredients?). The cals/100gms has also dropped by a negligible amount of about 7 and neither Glucosamine or Chondroitin sulphate amounts are listed.
Sophie Williams• one year ago
Hi...would like to try this for my 6 month Dachsund. Where can i buy it ?
Chloe Locke Sophie Williams• one year ago
Hi, Champion Pet Foods ideally like to stock smaller businesses so you won't find them in pets at home or pets corner for instance. However places like Penparc Pet Centre and Just for pets will sell it and some other smaller pet shops :)
Sabine Amelia• 2 years ago
We have a staffy puppy who absolutely thrives on this food. She was on the puppy one originally once we weaned her off the breeders kibble. Her digestion improved so much and she stopped having loose stools, her coat was the softest she's ever had and she also didn't have that 'dog' smell about her anymore. We tried a different, really good but less pricey food after that and it wasn't the same. She is now back on this Original food and loves it. We use it for training too and she never gets sick of it. Her coat is shiny and soft again, her digestion and stools are finally back on track and so is our back garden. It's definitely worth the price if it agrees with your dog, we won't be switching again.
Helen Ward• 2 years ago
My dog is really healthy on this food despite a dodgy start. He had Parvo when we bought him home and often had gastric issues early on. If he eats this food and nothing much else he's happy and healthy and no problem. He's had Orijen since he was a few months old first the puppy version (breeder recommended Purina Beta which I didn't even bother finishing the bag he wasn't keen on it and it was rubbish). He had special RC food until he was better and then I changed him to orijen. He's had some issues here and there but I can put these down to eating and drinking stuff that's not food out on walks like cattle poo any river water. He's now on orijen Tundra or regional red which he likes best and he's completely grown out of his issues (and now he's been trained to leave stuff) and we only go to the vets for annual jabs and a checkup. Our vets sell RC but told me never to change from this food as he wouldn't get anything better. Happy and healthy with lovely soft fur (Standard Labradoodle).
Hazy Summer• 2 years ago
Is the protein not too high in this?
Melania Gheorghe Hazy Summer• one year ago
i'm interested in the same thing
christosm0510 .• 4 years ago
My dog gets diarrhea when eating this...
Yoohoo christosm0510 .• 2 years ago
I get diarrhoea reading all this.
Sarah Jane Martins• 4 years ago
Has anyone seen the current lawsuit filed against Orijen and Acana about toxins (heavy metals) in some of varieties of food which is still under investigation in the USA. If you want to find out more have a read on Petful.com. I don’t what to think as I was just about to switch to this food. But as a vet tech I am cautious the too much protein can cause kidney problems in some dogs. And although it can take years to show any outwards signs the damage can’t be reversed.
MrFrisbee Sarah Jane Martins• 3 years ago
Worth pointing out that this lawsuit was unsuccesful.
Valerie jones• 5 years ago
I've been feeding Orijen Whole Prey to all my Border collies that compete in dog sports for several years now, but recently their poo has been very very big, soft, and sometimes sloppy, even a bit of colitis this morning, whereas before they were small, firm and never soft.I have messaged the company to enquire if they have changed any of the ingredients or changed the percentage of some of the ingredients which might cause that.
My dogs do not eat anything else. Treats are kibble taken from their daily ration, and their eating drinking habits haven't changed.
Fokel de Vries• 5 years ago
Have been feeding Orijen to my 3 whippets for at least 6 years now and have never looked for any other brand. Shiny coats, healthy bodies and teeth and most important they love it.
Used to buy Hill Science from the vets untill I saw a programme on BBC years ago about dog food. I investigated for weeks to find the best dog food and came across Orijen. I truly believe this is the best dry dog food you can buy for your dog.
My beautiful, healthy and happy whippets are a testimonie to the quality of Orijen.
Gemma Leach• 6 years ago
Currently feeding AATU Duck, considering changing to Orijen as can get 13.5kg bag for just under £50, whereas currently paying £50-£60 for a 10kg bag of AATU Duck. Anyone else changed from AATU to Orijen? Thoughts please...
Jeremy Dearman Gemma Leach• 6 years ago
Are you sure that's correct as Orijen don't make a 13.5kg bag.
Gemma Leach Jeremy Dearman• 6 years ago
I think they used to make a 13.5kg bag, but I wonder whether supplier has a few 13.5kg bags left, I haven’t actually ordered so may not actually have in stock.
Sarah Jones Gemma Leach• 5 years ago
I changed from aatu to Eden which is like orijen but cheaper.i might try missie on orijen for a change to see how she likes it.xx
Angel Goble Sarah Jones• 2 years ago
I feed my dog aatu, was it worth the swap?
Angel Goble Gemma Leach• 2 years ago
I feed aatu? How was the change? I don’t know if I should change my boys food
Jacqui Campuzano• 6 years ago
Following the guidelines and comments on this site I put my two year old boxer cross with skin sensitivity on this food to see if she thrived on it as I was not convinced my previous favourite brand was right for her as an individual. Whilst she lives the food, has good stools and has had no adverse effects in health unfortunately I don't feel I can keep her on it as her begging and scavenging has increased 200% she was never a good orientated dog but is now a nuisance and is stealing things off the counter. I can only put it down to the smaller volumes required and the lack of satiety in that. I'm sure I read a previous comment of someone else experiencing this also. I don't want to increase the volume and essentially over feed her in terms of nutrition as she is perfect weight and highly active. Anyone else have experience of this and have any advice or similar alternative suggestions? Thanks x
Sarah Jones Jacqui Campuzano• 5 years ago
Even though you should weigh the food you also need to adjust if they are still hungry.if they get loose stools then it's too much.active dogs need more and the feeding guide is just an estimate.i make sure to pick a food with the highest protein levels as it keeps them fuller for longer.also make sure to give plenty of water.xx
Miles Kington Jacqui Campuzano• 3 years ago
Hi, I have an 17 month old Borzoi and would absolutely not consider any other food, I have also carried out months of careful painstaking research, so forgive me but it sounds like you need to get to grips with your dog, if you don't mind me saying so..
Miles Kington
Jennifer Pearson• 7 years ago
Apologies in advance for the long comment :). I do ramble on a bit but hopefully I've made a few sound points to consider for dog owners out there. Most of my opinions are based on in depth research which I have personally enjoyed undertaking.I thought about trying this food (and similar foods), but it has far too much protein and I don't like the fact that the company are misleading consumers by claiming that some of their meat is 'fresh' (like it has come straight out of a butchers or fish mongers). The general definition of 'fresh' (in relation to food) is: "recently made or obtained; not tinned, frozen, or otherwise preserved". Dry food is preserved in a bag until opened (which could be 10 months after it is packaged) so can't be fresh!!As the review above has correctly pointed out, carbs are essential in a dog's diet and they do too (despite the contrary) require a balanced diet. Dogs are now omnivores and not carnivores like Wolves which are greatly separated from dogs over thousands of years. Wolves eat only meat but DOGS ARE NOT WILD WOLVES so cannot survive on just meat or high levels of meat. This is why I also disagree with people who feed dogs just raw meat- with a well balanced good quality dry food (which is usually formulated by nutritional experts) you know exactly how many vitamins, minerals, supplements, etc you are providing so why try and mix up your own recipe which could lack essential ingredients? Dogs have eaten alongside humans for 1000s of years, and we mainly consume rice, potatos and other grains along with meat and Veg. And like humans, some dogs are allergic to certain grains or meats so require a specific diet. But grain should not be pointed out as the main culprit, as it is essential and provides plenty of nutrients. Many dogs do fine on diets which contain grain.Furthermore, high protein foods are high in fat content (causing weight issues) and can also lead to serious health issues in liver and kidney function. Some dog owners will say that their dog is doing or looking great on the food (I've even heard people say that their dogs are doing great on 'Wagg'). That might be true on the outside (i.e. energy levels are great, coat is great, etc) but you can't possibly know what a food is doing to a dog internally and to its organs.So, the decision whether or not to try this food for your dog shouldn't be based on comments that just claim that 'their dog has thrived on this food', but on more revised and informed comments or reviews. Some dogs 'will' do fine and be stronger and immune to certain diseases, but other dogs will most likely become ill being on a high protein and minimal Carb diet. So you have to be careful and its important to do some research first and learn about what a dog's body and immune system actually requires to function properly.In my opinion, the 5 out of 5 rating for this food (and a few others I've seen on this website) is mainly based on the high level of meat content (the lack of carbs and the potential health risks are significant factors to consider as well). This high rating could be a problem when a dog owner is trying to choose a food for their dog as they will be automatically drawn to the highest rated food. I've seen perfectly balanced dog foods with 25-30% meat content marked as low as 3 out of 5. Don't get me wrong, I think this website is really good but I think some foods are overrated based on the level of certain ingredients.
dmac60 Jennifer Pearson• 4 years ago
You're right you do ramble on and on and on .
A Colon Jennifer Pearson• 3 years ago
The term fresh is that they make the food from fresh source directly to their kitchen... not that the food you get is fresh.... thats obviuos and you can read that on their webpage...HIGH % carbs are NOT essential in a dog's diet...There are a lot of studies..... I dont know where you get that..DOGS ARE NOT OMNIVORES are you serious??!... this comment is so wrong...first of all dogs are not humans and their nut. requirements are completly different... waw.
xva A Colon• 2 years ago
Great comment. Furthermore there are no scientific studies demonstrating too much proteins is a problem
vegan Is me Jennifer Pearson• one year ago
Dogs Aren’t wolfs they from the same family as the same with foxes jackels
Valerie jones• 7 years ago
I've been feeding my Border collies Orijen Adult Whole Prey for almost 4 years now. Two of the dogs are into their 12th year and still racing and competing in flyball. They have never been ill. my other 2 dogs, one who competes in our top team in flyball are also fed on Orijen. Their coats are excellent, they have lots of stamina, their stools are consistenly firm, and I can't praise this food enough because it is so good (IMO) Even fanatical raw feeders say it is the nearest thing you can get to a dogs natural food. So many dog foods on the market contain cheap bulk such as potato, sweet potato etc, which they have replaced grain and cereal with. Not cheap, but my dogs have never been healthier, had as much stamina as since I put them on Orijen.
Haley Thompson• 7 years ago
I'm a bit conused/concerned. I am American living in England (so I have to do a lot of conversions haha). In the states I fed a very high quality food packed full of protein, very similar to Orijen. Once in England I could no longer get my American food so I decided to recently switch to Orijen. I looked up my dogs' weights and the amount I should be feeding (I'm assuming per day) and it's such a tiny amount! They can eat their entire meal in 2-3 bites (I feed them am/pm). Am I calculating it correctly or misunderstanding the bag? Maybe I'm converting incorrectly? My dogs are ~14 and 23kg, medium active. It just seems like such a tiny amount and no matter how good a food is how can they be getting all the nutrients they need and feel full off of 2-3 bites twice a day?
elie turner• 8 years ago
Just looking at Rob Staves and Bubbles conversation - come on guys, it's well known that vets are on a huge commission from Royal Canin. That's why they're always heavily promoting it. Everything in it is so processed. If humans are told to stay away from processed food, surely the same goes for animal food.
Rachel Ireland elie turner• 6 years ago
As someone who works in a vet I can tell you that vets get a discount from buying food from the Reps plus they get invited to Seminars etc. They do not get a commission from them.
A Colon elie turner• 3 years ago
true
Andrew Weaver• 8 years ago
I am a dog trainer and a dog owner to three terriers, two J/R/Ts and a Patterdale. My dogs love this, both the 7 fish version, and the red version. They have been eating this for around 2 years and they are in perfect condition. I do recommend this product to my clients also, as though it is expensive per bag, the cost per day is low, unless of course you own a large breed.
Tanz• 8 years ago
While I'm sure this works well for some dogs it made my precious eight month old ill. Within two weeks of starting it she was pacing straight after eating, burping and gulping. Thinking she was eating too fast I tried go slow bowls. It came to a head when she started vomiting and became increasingly lethargic. Her coat became coarse and darker in colour (she's usually light cream) and extremely watery eyes. One week later after a vet visit and a bland diet then transitioning to barking heads, she's like a new dog. Full of beans, shiny coat which is lightening back up to her usual colour and no longer gulping, vomiting or pacing and has stopped scavenging for food. It was most definitely the food, we tried puppy and six fish, it was the six fish that tipped her over the edge for the worst. I was feeding less than the recommendation so it wasn't from giving too much either.
Julie S• 8 years ago
My working cocker lost nearly 3kg on this, and I was feeding nearly double the recommended amount. I wasn't impressed at all and we went back to Barking Heads.
DotaFelo• 8 years ago
Actually, it is too good. My old boxer-lady has been on Regional Red for a while and likes it very much, but the problem is my three months old English Bulldog pup, I have just acquired, loves it. I have tried everything and simply cannot keep the little one away from her dish at lunchtime. What's worse, he now refuses to eat his puppy chow, Hussa, which the breeder recommended. Mixing the two won't help, as the little bully is smart enough to spit the Hussa out, away from the dish and continue with his favorite now Orijen bits. Frustrating. Yet, proves the Orijen formula is excellent. By the way, my Boxer is eleven, and her recent blood test results, as well as her ECG surprised even her vet - outstanding :). Neither does she look or act her age. I guess, I might as well be selling it too ;)
dmac60 DotaFelo• 4 years ago
Don't listen to your breeder as they raise so many dogs they can't afford to feed them good food.
Elizabeth• 8 years ago
We think Regional Red is outstanding. It appeared my dog was desperate to have more fulfilling or better quality food than the brand he was on, when he was a young pup. When I started him on Orijen his craving stopped and he was satisfied and thrived. He's been on Regional Red for the last 2 years and I've never been more happy with a dog food in over 30 years of having dogs. It smells wholesome; his waste is neat and he doesn't need a massive amount so works out less than you first think. I always mix it with a little wet food and veg if it's going spare.
Scamp DW• 8 years ago
My three dogs - two mini schnauzers and an Imaal terrier - are all fed Orijen (mixed with Nature's Diet) and they are rarely ill.Nothing is ever left in their bowlsTheir coats, vitality, and all-round wellbeing are awesome. And, most noticeably, their poos are perfect.Yes, it costs more - but you use less.Worryingly, our vet still remain opposed to anything other than Royal Canin, a brand they sell in their reception - funny that.
Rob Staves Scamp DW• 8 years ago
Vets are a business at the end of the day and they need to make a profit. They don't benefit from healthy dogs.
hubble Rob Staves• 8 years ago
The majority of vets, who studied many years, work long hours, get called in the middle of the night any day of the year, and go above and beyond for pets, get into the profession because they LOVE ANIMALS. Some vets recommend RC because they have a large selection of foods for specific diseases. Plenty of vets recommend other brands or raw feeding.
Also with your logic, don't ever go to a doctor, because they'll try to intentionally make you sick so you'll come back *rolls eyes*
Rob Staves hubble• 8 years ago
Go to a Dr. and you're likely to get sick waiting in the waiting room. When you do finally see one, they'll give you five-ten minutes of their time and try and prescribe antidepressants to you whether you need it or not, or some other drug at the time.*Rolls eyes*I don't question that a lot of vets do love animals, however, it is a business and the objective of the business is to make money. In terms of food, I'm yet to come across one veterinary practice that sells raw or any decent brand of food.
hubble Rob Staves• 8 years ago
Yes, that's what doctors and vets do, run tests and give medicine (or surgery or other treatments). What giving drugs is a bad thing now? Last time I checked they saved lives.I don't think being hounded to take antidepressants is the general experience, if your GP is then maybe he/she's caught on to something in your behavior?By the way, there are vet practices that stock Orijen. But you keep hinting that because vets aren't non-profit, they will only prioritize making money over the health and safety of pets, (even though you admitted alot do love animals). Therefore, any food they stock will be only for their financial benefit and the food's quality cannot be trusted. Thereofore Orijen cannot be trusted. (your logic,not mine)
Also, you can't have thought your previous comment through about a veterinary practice selling raw. You do realize the facilities that would take (refrigeration) and the contamination risk (bacteria, parasites, and sick pets roaming around)
Rachel Ireland Rob Staves• 6 years ago
As someone who works in a vet we work long hard hours and even shed tears over the animals in our care. Yes we do sometimes have to hurry things along because we have a room full of people who complain and make loud remarks when we make them late because someone actually had a sick pet and needed a lot of tests or our time. We often find that customers are the ones who are reluctant to try anything other than medication and won't accept and I quote "that hippy shit". I know in particular one customer who had a dog with behavioral problems that then caused physical problems and despite repeated advice to go to a behavioralist, exercise the dog more and try training techniques, refused all this and demanded medication. Customers are quick to doubt us and complain incessantly about the price and I know for a fact (at least in my vets) that our margins are razor thin and we are not rolling in money even though we are understaffed and underpaid.Yes we are a business and we are trying to make money and we sell toys, toothpaste, food etc. If you stock 15 different high quality food brands then how on earth are you going to recommend the best food for the animal. It makes sense to stick with a brand like Science Plan/Royal Canin because it's not a terrible food (i know it's not a great food but a lot of dogs seem to thrive on it) and it's simple to recommend as they come in age brackets and one flavour. They also make specialist food which is routinely used to help conditions. So why would we give the Specialist food and not recommend their normal food. Also most vets have limited space for food so again doesn't make sense to stock a lot of different brands. The main point of selling Scien Plan/Royal Canin is that the brand commonly used is a vets only brand and we want people to stay loyal with us because we are a business and need to make money. If they come in for food they'll probably come in for flea treatment, nurse advice, puppy classes and then also if their animal is sick. We like to see loyal customers coming back because that is what brings in the money, not people who stop in when their animal is on deaths door and they need it put down.A lot of vets won't recommend raw feeding because there are very few studies or research which proves it's effectiveness. Plus selling raw food in a place full of sick animals seems like a recipe for disaster. Plus the electricity bill would be through the roof and we need the money to buy better equipment so your animal survives.
Fiona Rachel Ireland• 6 years ago
Well said.
Fiona Rob Staves• 6 years ago
Raw is a fad most vets will be glad to see the back of. Vets have your pets health as their primary concern. Contrary to opinion, they do not make a lot of money and earn a lot less than doctors and dentists, despite their 6 yr training, then many further years of post grad training. My god daughter is a vet student. The more I learn about the realities, the more the uneducated negative opinions of vets sound ridiculously stupid.
Rob Staves Fiona• 6 years ago
Fiona, I am sure vets have the dogs best interests at heart, however, recommending yearly vaccinations, chemical spot on treatments, and having no training or next to none in nutrition and behaviour, says otherwise. Hills Science Plan, Royal Canin, any kind of prescription diet sold at the vets, these all have a detrimental effect on our pets.Furthermore, there isn't a set standard and certainly not all vets conform to it. There are some excellent vets, some poor and a fair few awful ones!Lastly but not least, raw isn't a fad and there are an increasing amount of owners switching to raw food and seeing the benefits and more research is being done on it.Also, a lot of these "uneducated, negative opinions" stems from people's bad experiences of vets!When I first got my dog, two vets failed to diagnose she had mange!
Fiona Rob Staves• 6 years ago
I've never met a vet who doesn't know what mange is and how to test for it. I suppose it is possible you met the only two vets in the country unable to diagnose it. I prefer to give my dogs treatments that actually work. The rubbish recommended for the 'natural' prevention of fleas and ticks is total nonsense. I've done extensive research and reading around the subject, dozens of hours, reading both sides of the argument. Vaccinations of course can be done less frequently with titre testing. My vet doesn't stock pet food at all, and does have an animal nutritionist available for consults each week. The increasing amount of owners turning to raw is a testament to the power of the internet and the alternative pet food industry, who are making a fortune. To each his own. I practice evidence based medicine. Without evidence, claims are just empty.
Rob Staves Fiona• 6 years ago
I also believe in science based evidence and don't believe anything I read on the internet unless its backed up by evidence, references etc.I've been giving my dog natural supplements to repel fleas, ticks, mites, diatomaceous earth, and another natural supplement for worming. I also do a worm count. I've been doing this for the last eight months and haven't experienced any problems whatsoever and we are both much happier that I no longer have to give her a horrible insecticide spot on treatment or chemical wormer every month, three or what have you.The fact that you proport to only use things backed up by science but then dismiss raw feeding as a fad and feed a dry food (I presume) and that the alternative pet food industry is making a fortune, would be hilarious if it wasn't so damning or left me utterly dumbfounded.I won't be pursuing this conversation further as it is a complete waste of my time.However, lets try and get back in touch in a few years and compare how our dogs have fared.One on a dry food diet with monthly spot on and three monthly worming treatments.The other on a holistic, natural diet and supplements where possible and we will compare.
Fiona Rob Staves• 6 years ago
I know exactly how mine will be. Bursting with health, as all my dogs have been. Nothing as pompous as the anti vax, anti vet brigade. The 'chemicals' are poisonous to fleas and ticks, NOT dogs. As a doctor, we meet these kind of fixed beliefs on occasion. Ridiculous, and self destructive.smh.
Tori Adams Fiona• 2 years ago
Oh wow Fiona how have you survived through life this long? If you aren't even willing to open your mind and actually learn something new then jokes on you. There is so much scientific documentation out there that discusses the harmful effect of worming tablets and spot on flea treatments. You are essentially putting man made pesticides on your dog. We know pesticides cause us long term health problems and that is just us inhaling it. You don't think there will be any long term effects from putting them directly on your dogs skin or having them ingest them? And why keep mentioning anti vaxxers? What do they have to do with this conversation? you have just shown everyone exactly what kind of person you are. the name Karen comes to mind. No point telling you to research because your mind is made up but don't try and push your warped views and attitude on others. I 1000% believe that Robs dogs will ultimately be far healthier in years to come and do please invite me if you ever do meet up,I think it would be a hoot 😆
Fiona Rob Staves• 6 years ago
You don't believe in anything you read unles backed up by the internet yet you give your dogs 'natural' supplements "to repel fleas ticks, mites" what a load of bullshit.
Rob Staves Fiona• 6 years ago
8 months and counting, not a problem whatsoever. I no longer have to give her harsh chemicals and pesticides such as Advocate which have been known to strip paint off walls and come with a warning not to get on your own skin. What about the dogs?!Carry on feeding your dog a processed dry food diet, apply monthly spot on treatments, vaccinate yearly and whatever else.As I said, lets compare in a few years.Your comment about raw being a fad and and that the chemical spot on treatments are only poisonous to fleas and ticks, well, its utterly baffling if not laughable and outright shocking.You can carry on with your venomous tirade, I will not be responding. I neither have the time nor the inclination.However, I do implore you to go to seminars and talks about natural foods and remedies, holisticvet is fantastic. Karen Becker and Planet Paws on facebook are two useful resources to look into. Dogster is handy.There is plenty of research and plenty more emerging every day of the dangers of over vaccinating, monthly spot on treatments (dangers not only to our pet but the surrounding environment), feeding a dry food diet only and so much more. I implore you to have an open mind and do more research or at least contemplate a more natural approach for your dog.I do cordially invite you to discuss these matters in a private forum with me if you're able to be polite, have an intellectual conversation and refrain from such atrocious language. I've only got so much soap in my dispenser."Curiosity opens doors, judgement slams them shut."
Emma Judson Fiona• 6 years ago
Fad? Dang it's been a long ole fad ... definition of a fad
is a short lived craze.. I've been raw feeding nearly 15 years without any issues at all, to on average five dogs at a time - I reckon I've fed an estimated 54'600 meals and that will be an underestimate, as I've had more than five dogs at some point, and thus fed more than 10 raw meals per week.Vets will be waiting one HECK of a long time to see the back of raw feeding - it's been around as long as dogs have existed, it's been popular on a commercial basis for at least the last 10 years and the more we do it, the more we know about it, the better it gets and so the better dogs do.
Fiona Emma Judson• 6 years ago
Dogs have been omnivores far longer than they have been carnivores. Raw meet is full of bugs, what a shame this expensive idiocy is pushed by the same anti-vaccination morons.
Emma Judson Fiona• 6 years ago
... I did not claim that dogs are obligate carnivores, for they are not. You have misunderstood me quite wildly but then, I suspect that was your intention as you do not appear to like reading what is actually said do you!Dogs are omnivores, however their dentition and digestive tract evidences their superior ability to digest meat and in particular, raw meat that may even be going off - scavengers in fact, who can also digest some vegetable matter, particularly that which is partially digested already.They are in that respect almost the exact opposite to humans, an omnivore whose dentition and digestive tract evidences their superior ability to digest vegetables, seeds and roots and meat if they can get it.Raw meat may well be full of bacteria and pathogens (or 'bugs' as you put it), but the short digestive tract of the canine is well adapted to take care of that, with strong stomach acids and a short transit time.I don't recall where I put that I was anti-vaccine, another conclusion you have lept to without any evidence whatsoever - but even if I were foolishly anti-vaccine, which I am not, I cannot think of a single vaccine that covers anything a dog could ONLY contract from consuming raw meat and not from any other source.Would you care to enlighten me as you clearly are a fount of knowledge.
Tori Adams Emma Judson• 2 years ago
I love this response.thank you.
Tori Adams Fiona• 2 years ago
Dogs have been omnivores far longer than carnivores? Please think about that statement and how ridiculous it was! Woman check yourself lol 😆
ADOSEOFREALITY Fiona• 5 years ago
A Fad seriously? Raw is the healthiest way to feed your dogs. The only reason vets will be glad to see the back of it is because it helps to keep animals away from them.
Tori Adams Rob Staves• 2 years ago
I totally agree with you My! My vets looked at me like I had two heads when I told them I fed raw. They even told me they discourage it because they had lots of dogs that got sick and the humans weren't storing it correctly and they were also getting sick from their raw dog food. To me that just sounds like bad ownership and if you feed raw then do it properly. My dog has his own separate fridge and freezer plus counter top and utensils. The vets then tried to push me on science plan and then royal canin which are the WORST food! I've had my pup on eden for the first 8 months but it ended up disagreeing with him. I have spent so much time trying new foods, researching and speaking to nutritionists about what to feed him its been a nightmare. The vets is a business and they are always out to make money. The long term effects of a poor diet and wrong food can shed years off your dogs life. This Orijen food is so far the best I have found and my pup went through months of not eating properly, going off food, being really fussy and so many vet trips for a bad stomach, I paid so much for all kinds of tests until I came across Orijen. He has been thriving on this food and he wolfs it down I've never seen him eat like that. He is happier and has a spring in his step. I couldn't be more over the moon with this food after so long struggling. Dont trust what the vets say about nutrition. Do your own research
Richard Tori Adams• 2 years ago
Well done, especially for the storage and preparation of raw food. Orijen was a brilliant food, but I eventually switched to raw some years ago and this has been the best thing that I've done for my dog and I.Unfortunately, a lot of vets don't know much about nutrition, and this reflects in their care of your dog. Diet causes so many issues and a lot can be resolved by feeding a good quality raw food.Alas, trying to get this across to people can be really difficult, as they will do what the vet says even if this is at the detriment to their dogs' health.
Julie Herbert• 8 years ago
My dogs thrive on Orijen Adult, has anyone tried Orijen regional and what is the difference apart from being much more expensive ?
Rob Staves Julie Herbert• 8 years ago
Regional Red is the fancy, all singing, all dancing version. The only difference is the use of more premium ingredients and no chicken (which is in most dog food as it is cheaper than most single source protein meat). Great if you can afford it, otherwise Orijen Adult is good enough.
john ferries• 8 years ago
Hi,we have 4 dogs,the one lme particularly asking advice on is our latest rescue Bruno,he is a blk lab 32 kg.we have been advised to put him on a raw diet which we tried but don't really want to stay on that.he is a very hyper dog,sometimes like a child with ADHD,but getting better the last few months.we have been told to find a food with no additives etc.would this be OK? Thanks in advance
Rob Staves john ferries• 8 years ago
Orijen is the best dry food available so far. I can't recommend in enough. In fact, its so good, I've become a retailer myself!
Deb john ferries• 8 years ago
Yes this would be great as it is a raw food diet - flash frozen apparently! And there is nothing added to it. I have been using it for 2 years, after one of my dogs developed cancer I was convinced it was the crappy tinned food I was feeding him - never realised how bad it was till I read up on it. I changed to orijen and he survived another 2 years despite the vet only giving him a month to 6mths. The difference in his coat was unbelievable, his eyes were better he had more life and as like a young dog again. I then had a French bulldog and put her on it her shape is amazing as is her coat it is so silky - I would never use anything else! I'm so passionate about this food I think I could sell it lol
Fiona Deb• 6 years ago
Tinned food doesn't cause cancer. FFS.
Yoohoo Fiona• 2 years ago
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Michelle Marshall• 8 years ago
Hi Rob, our local pet shop stocks it so I collect it.
Rob Staves Michelle Marshall• 8 years ago
Thanks for letting me know Michelle. You mentioned he thrives on Orijen as does my dog and believe it or not, I also sell the Thrive treats ;)
Alison Gordon• 8 years ago
Hi - it's around £50. I don't pay delivery as I live 1/3 mile from the pet shop and they get in the 6 fish variety for me to order
Rob Staves• 8 years ago
When I got my dog from the local animal shelter she was somewhat underweight, had mange and overall didn't look particularly well. I put her on Orijen and she has come on in leaps and bounds. She has had no issues thus far, is very active, has tremendous muscle definition, looks incredibly healthy and has a very slick, shiny coat.I recommend Orijen to anyone and everyone I meet and although it is expensive initially, over time it is much, much cheaper than other grain free, hypoallergenic foods such as Wainwright's, Simpsons, Akela etc. and much better too as it has such a wide and diverse ingredients list.In fact, I'm now a stockist of Orijen as I only believe in feeding my dog the very best and want to promote it to other people as much as possible!
June Rob Staves• 8 years ago
Do you have any samples please as i have a very fussy dog and not sure if he will like it. Thank you
Fiona June• 6 years ago
Of course he doesn't have samples. He's a business, and in it for the money.
Nichola Fiona• 6 years ago
Why so angry fifi?!
Michelle Marshall• 8 years ago
We used to feed our lab Canagan. Health wise / fitness he was fine on this but just went off it. After reading lots of reviews etc we switched to Orijen and he loves it and continues to thrive :)
Alison Gordon• 9 years ago
Moved my Westie onto this about 8 months ago and he loves the 6 fish variety and he is in awesome condition. Had some minor allergy issues last year when he was on James Wellbeloved but so far so good on this. Expensive but worth every penny in my view.
Kelly• 9 years ago
I've just switched to Orijen as it was so highly rated. My cockapoo is extremely fussy with her food but she absolutely adores this, she can't get enough of it. Was previously using Eden which is also very good but I thought I'd give this a go and can't see myself ever going back. I prefer the smell of Orijen and it's a nicer size and not quite so hard. I also feed her soft complete food too, so she has about half soft food and half kibble each day.
Paul Holzherr• 9 years ago
I was out walking today and someone gave me some Orijen to try for my little dog. I gave him one little piece at a time and he was licking my fingers in anticipation of the next bit! I think it is worth spending time to find a good healthy diet for our dogs! I suspect the industrial foods are not always good for our pets.
Catherine Grose• 9 years ago
I was so excited about switching to Orijen but my young dog (Golden Doodle) was totally disinterested in it. I had to add yogurt to every meal to trick him into eating it. The food had little by way of smell (just a vaguely unpleasant odor) compared to his previous food which had a strong fish smell. May give it another go in the future as it sounds so great and he was on antibiotics during some of the bag so maybe he wan't himself.
Mundyboy• 9 years ago
I have fed my three Cocker Spaniels on the same well known
(not cheap) dog food since I have had them.
The old boy (11) had hot spots which were very slow to go and he was
showing signs of slowing down. After
reading about Orijen on this site and reading member’s comments I swapped him
onto Orijen Senior. What a change! His skin has cleared up, his coat is so much
better and (not to be indelicate) he has turned frisky like a youngster
again. I know the food is not cheap but
I am happy that he so obviously happy.
As soon as my stock of ‘the other’ food has gone then the two girls are
going onto Orijen. I just hope I can
keep up with all of them!
Mel Rogers• 9 years ago
I began feeding this food 2 months ago and my dogs are not as flatulent or smelly and they go to the toilet less often. Their coats are soft and very glossy to the point people comment on their coats. There is a downside, this food can not maintain the weight of very active dogs. I fed top end of the recommended amount for active dogs to both of mine and they lost weight badly. They get a 2 hour walk a day, one dog is on double the recommended amount and the other on triple the recommended amount and they are still dropping weight. There are no medical reasons as I have had them checked. I now have no choice but to change their food as can not afford to continue with Orijen. It is a shame as I love the way they look and the energy they have on it.
Dawn Mel Rogers• 9 years ago
Hi Mel, Two suggestions:
Mix Orijen with Markus Muhle (£30 15kg bad from Zooplus) which should keep the weight on, or try Acana Adult (same maker as Orijen) which contains 20% oats. I have two 6yr old labs and they look great on the Acana, Orijen and Markus Muhle which I rotate or something feed mixed.
Emily Cotton Dawn• 8 years ago
Hi Dawn. Really glad I read your post. Our 1-yr-old female cockerpoo is on Markus Muhle by recommendation from her breeder. WE love MM as she has gorgeous coat, nice poos, etc. But she seems to HATE it now and will only eat it when starving. I was looking to totally switching her to Orijen or Eden, but the protein content would be almost double what she is getting on MM. Do you mix 50/50 each day? I bet she'll just eat around the MM, and only eat the Orijen/Eden! Can you comment any more, a year on?
Valerie jones Mel Rogers• 9 years ago
I train and compete with my 3 collies in flyball and they are more or less free running/racing around all day, every day and I give less than the recommended amount as I have to watch their weights.
Aly young• 10 years ago
Aly
Just changed my dogs food from Royal Canin adult ,to Orijen adult ( whole prey). Introduced it gradually over a two week period, now on it fully.
I found this site very helpful when making my final decision.
She is an active 2yr old boxer , who gets plenty of excercise. It says to give 240- 330g a day, but I give a little extra in the morning feed ( as she burns of most of her energy in morning walks).
So far she's doing well on new food, and she gets excited when you go to bag ( as she knows it's feeding time). It smells better than last food , and she obviously enjoys it.
It is more expensive than other brands, but I think she's worth it.
jen• 10 years ago
I started my one year old cockerpoo on orijen two weeks ago. Previously she had been eating Canagan, which is had to mix with cheaper brands or cereal to get her to even look at! (She didn't like canagan and has always been a picky eater!) as soon as I opened the bag of Orijen, I worried she wouldn't like it, it was in small pieces, brown and boring! I couldn't have been more wrong. My dog absolutely loves this food. She seems healthier and her coat is growing faster. I would definitely recommend this to anyone. The best thing about it is the small feeding portions, which makes the food much cheaper than you think.
Emily Cotton jen• 8 years ago
Hi Jen. We have a picky 1-yr cockerpoo. our breeder says this high protein food will make her kill our lawn with her high protein pee!? Can you comment?
jen Emily Cotton• 8 years ago
Hi Emily,
My dogs wee does stain the grass a very slight shade of green darker. I don't think it's particularly noticeable and I wouldn't say it's any different to when she's eaten different food brands. I hope that helps!
Jen
Emily Cotton jen• 8 years ago
Thanks, Jen. How many times have you changed/tried different foods with your dog? And where do you buy your Orijen for best deals? Thanks.
dmac60 Emily Cotton• 4 years ago
Your breeder sounds more concerned about your lawn than your dog.
Lexi sbt• 10 years ago
I've recently started feeding my 17 month Staffordshire bull terrier orijen I've gone from many good quality brands from jwb, applaws, wainwrights, Adrian grange, science plan and lots more. She's always been picky apart from her being on a raw diet I've wasted so much money with trial and error it really is untrue I've been firm but they comes that line that I need to yet again reconsider another brand of kibble I love my dog and the breed of the Staffordshire bull terriers I've been left to look at the odd few brands I've not tried the top end of the market orijen I can not thank you enough I have without a doubt found a high quality kibble that for the first time and I thought id never see the day she loves the stuff she's even finished, left the room and even gone back to a empty bowl she now looks so athletic and happy
Lesley Duncan• 10 years ago
I started my border collie on Orijen adult about 2 years ago. She seems to have a delicate stomach and I tried various different foods to try and sort her out. She also had a weird skin patch on one of her legs which seemed to be itchy and all the hair fell out. Once I moved her onto Orijen she never looked back, has a wonderful glossy coat and almost never has stomach problems unless she manages to pick up a dead fish or something equally revolting when she's out on the beach. I don't have to feed her as much of this as other food, probably due to the high protein and because she's able to digest it better I actually find that she poops much less too. Worth every penny I think.
Ita• 10 years ago
I began feeding my labrador or Burns Chicken & Rice, then tried Arden Grange Sensitive and Acacia Grasslands. I have always avoided any food or treats with artificial additives or preservatives. My dog Ruby has always had quite a coarse coat and upon researching some more on the internet, I decided to try Orijen Adult for her. I have just ordered her second 13kg bag and Ruby is very happy, her coat is a lot softer and shinier and her weight is stable at around 27/28 kilos. I would definitely recommend this food, even if it is a bit costly. It makes me happy to see all the wonderful reviews and I am happy I have my dog on this, she is my best friend and deserves the best. Highly recommended.
P.S. I used to have my other labrador on Science Diet I/D and Sensitive as recommended by my vets - I realize now this was not a good food and full of things I don't even care to mention. Plus my dog had a hot spot on her face which was very sore and only kept at bay by her being on antibiotics all the time for the last 18 months or so of her life - I read now that this food could have caused this! Steer clear of Science Diet!